eViL wrote:

TMS wrote:i find it unbelievable that people were so quick to buy into the unproven plan but have so many misgivings about following the proven one...

there is no "proven" plan. luck plays just as much a part in all of this as strategy does. if we get lucky our "young assets" will turn into superstars. or are you absolutely certain that it's "proven" that neither AR nor Gallo nor Felton can make the jump?

it's not "proven" that Toney Douglas can't make the jump either, but do you think it's reasonably possible? do i think Gallo or AR have the potential to grow into stars? possibly... do i KNOW that CP3 is a superstar? yes... & that's "proven".

to me, the choice between trading away assets to acquire a superstar in a TRADE vs. trading away assets to clear cap space is a no brainer, but some of you have the complete opposite logic... it's ridiculous.

again, i'm not saying to give up every single young asset we have to get CP3, but if it's possible to get him now & still hold onto at least 1 of Gallo or AR, i think you have to do it.

TMS wrote:

eViL wrote:

TMS wrote:i find it unbelievable that people were so quick to buy into the unproven plan but have so many misgivings about following the proven one...

there is no "proven" plan. luck plays just as much a part in all of this as strategy does. if we get lucky our "young assets" will turn into superstars. or are you absolutely certain that it's "proven" that neither AR nor Gallo nor Felton can make the jump?

it's not "proven" that Toney Douglas can't make the jump either, but do you think it's reasonably possible? do i think Gallo or AR have the potential to grow into stars? possibly... do i KNOW that CP3 is a superstar? yes... & that's "proven".

to me, the choice between trading away assets to acquire a superstar in a TRADE vs. trading away assets to clear cap space is a no brainer, but some of you have the complete opposite logic... it's ridiculous.

again, i'm not saying to give up every single young asset we have to get CP3, but if it's possible to get him now & still hold onto at least 1 of Gallo or AR, i think you have to do it.

With a removed meniscus, it is not proven that he'll continue to be a superstar, and if he still is, we have no clue how long that lasts. To me, it's just not worth it, especially if the Hornets insist on us taking back OK4.

TMS wrote:btw, how do you figure we'll have the cap space to sign Melo next summer & then CP3 the year after? please explain when we'll already have Amare's contract value going up every year incrementally along with the issue of having to re-sign Gallo and/or Anthony Randolph & Wilson Chandler? so wait, you're willing to let those young guys go in 2 years time to sign CP3, but you're not willing to trade those guys now to get CP3? please explain how that makes sense.

The difference is in 2 years we'll have time to see whether CP3 is actually back to pre-injury ability. We have team options for Gallo (5mm) and Randolph (4mm) during the 3rd year (2012-2013), so they would still be under contract. Chandler's qualifying offer is for 2012 so he would be expendable. Now the qualifying offers are separate from cap holds and from checking hoopsworld I'm not sure how to interpret them - it looks like we'd need to aggressively re-sign AR, Gallo, and Chandler to reasonable contracts so that their cap-holds don't mess up our cap space.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9155

To answer your question fully I'd need more information... as the salary info seems to be incomplete for all our players. Any other cap experts please chime in.

If we make a trade for CP3, we'd still need work in order to be an elite team. Of course that depends on what we give up. Still we'd be better with CP3 than without. I just don't know if it's wise to make a deal before we have a chance to see what this group can do. Then again some would say that it's the perfect time, since we can't fail if we haven't even played a game yet and CP3 can't increase his value without playing either. It's gonna be a tough thing to pull off in either event. NO won't give him up easily. They know how good he is. I actually thought we had a better shot when they were still over the cap and looking for get under. Before we stated making deals, we could've taken on CP3 and OK4 which would allow them to clear tons of cap.

eViL wrote:

nixluva wrote:3LW is not unbeatable. I'm not saying we'll be the ones to beat them, but that roster is gonna have a weakness and it's up to the top teams to figure those weaknesses out over the course of the season. They're the favorites right now, so we'll see if they can stand up to the pressure or not.

their weakness is lack of depth. my strategy would be to attack, attack, attack. especially at bosh. put him in foul trouble.

Just keep rotating in fresh legs. Throw Randolph, Turiaf and the Russian at him for five minutes at a time.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Let LA, Boston, and Orlando worry about beating Miami. We don't have a chance.

We sholud worry how to be better than Milwaukee and Charlotte.

haha. true.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:You guys are definitely creative with your ideas though. The original poster thinks all it takes to beat the Heat is to have AR repeatedly dunk on Bosh. What is this, NBA Jam ? Bosh will abuse AR like a red headed step child. BTW, do they even make NBA JAM ?

Panos, your posts are often intelligent, but I'm sorry. Fresh legs won't get it done against this team.

Evil, neither will "attack, attack, attack." This isn't battleship lol.

Any other creative ways to beat them, anyone?

Ok, how about we send in gritty Toney Douglas to "Tanya Harding" that fool Bosh in the tunnel before the game?

JrZyHuStLa wrote:You guys are definitely creative with your ideas though. The original poster thinks all it takes to beat the Heat is to have AR repeatedly dunk on Bosh. What is this, NBA Jam ? Bosh will abuse AR like a red headed step child. BTW, do they even make NBA JAM ?

Panos, your posts are often intelligent, but I'm sorry. Fresh legs won't get it done against this team.

Evil, neither will "attack, attack, attack." This isn't battleship lol.

Any other creative ways to beat them, anyone?

ok. so you a funny dude now. hahaha.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Let LA, Boston, and Orlando worry about beating Miami. We don't have a chance.

We should worry how to be better than Milwaukee and Charlotte.

I agree. Though I think Charlotte is going to fall apart after losing Felton for nothing. I think Detroit has a chance to be way better. They are way more talented then there record, Monroe can really help them. Cleveland and Charlotte our out, New York and Detroit are in.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

nixluva wrote:Now we don't yet know what Miami will be like offensively...

Maybe you don't know what Miami will be looking like offensively, but I do, and it's gonna be pretty damn good lol.