Childs2Dudley wrote:

blkexec wrote:I guess I'm alone with this, but I think bringing Isiah back is a good idea. He's the only guy who has an eye for talent, and a connection with todays NBA stars.

The problem wasn't Isiah....It was Dolan giving Isiah too much power, without a defined task that fits his skill set.

I see no problem with Isiah as a players scout / player relations type guys. In some kind of consulting role!

This is what I judge Isiah on:

Seasons W-L
2004–05: 33-49
2005–06: 23-59
2006–07: 33-49
2007–08: 23-59

Players acquired:

Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov
Jermaine Jackson
Ime Udoka
Maurice Taylor
Malik Rose
Vin Baker
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Stephon Marbury
Eddy Curry
Fred Jones
Antonio Davis
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Penny Hardaway
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Demetris Nichols
Jackie Butler
Moochie Norris
Quentin Richardson
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
DerMarr Johnson
Nate Robinson

I really hate it when people try to give Isiah Thomas a break. WHY? What the hell did he do here that was so good? He left behind Lee and Chandler. That's it. 5 f'ing seasons and he left behind 2 decent to good players while trading away half his draft picks and overpaying the likes of Jeffries, Jerome and Curry. I blame him for that list because he acquired those players. Just like when people insulted Walsh for acquiring Roberson and the likes. Isiah signed, traded and drafted those players. Did he have a few good players along the way? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

Isiah's "eye for talent" is severely overrated. What he does have is the impeccable will to lose. He sucks ass now and sucked ass then. He has sucked in everything he has been involved in since his retirement as a player. Pathetic tenure with the Toronto Raptors and the CBA and a mediocre at best tenure with the Indiana Pacers as coach. Then he comes here and ****s the bed. Once he's fired he goes to FIU and proceeds to do absolutely nothing to raise their level of play, despite his basketball "genius" and "eye for talent". He is a LOSER since his retirement. I want to win.

You fail for not reading.

Biased? No. Common sense? Yes.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:
I really hate it when people try to give Isiah Thomas a break. WHY? What the hell did he do here that was so good? He left behind Lee and Chandler. That's it. 5 f'ing seasons and he left behind 2 decent to good players while trading away half his draft picks and overpaying the likes of Jeffries, Jerome and Curry. I blame him for that list because he acquired those players. Just like when people insulted Walsh for acquiring Roberson and the likes. Isiah signed, traded and drafted those players. Did he have a few good players along the way? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

You're thought out post fails because you left out David Lee. Kind of biased, no? It just paints this entire post with a bias that is hard to overlook.

He mentioned lee, thats the only thing positive of the isiah reign

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

blkexec wrote:I guess I'm alone with this, but I think bringing Isiah back is a good idea. He's the only guy who has an eye for talent, and a connection with todays NBA stars.

The problem wasn't Isiah....It was Dolan giving Isiah too much power, without a defined task that fits his skill set.

I see no problem with Isiah as a players scout / player relations type guys. In some kind of consulting role!

This is what I judge Isiah on:

Seasons W-L
2004–05: 33-49
2005–06: 23-59
2006–07: 33-49
2007–08: 23-59

Players acquired:

Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov
Jermaine Jackson
Ime Udoka
Maurice Taylor
Malik Rose
Vin Baker
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Stephon Marbury
Eddy Curry
Fred Jones
Antonio Davis
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Penny Hardaway
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Demetris Nichols
Jackie Butler
Moochie Norris
Quentin Richardson
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
DerMarr Johnson
Nate Robinson

I really hate it when people try to give Isiah Thomas a break. WHY? What the hell did he do here that was so good? He left behind Lee and Chandler. That's it. 5 f'ing seasons and he left behind 2 decent to good players while trading away half his draft picks and overpaying the likes of Jeffries, Jerome and Curry. I blame him for that list because he acquired those players. Just like when people insulted Walsh for acquiring Roberson and the likes. Isiah signed, traded and drafted those players. Did he have a few good players along the way? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

Isiah's "eye for talent" is severely overrated. What he does have is the impeccable will to lose. He sucks ass now and sucked ass then. He has sucked in everything he has been involved in since his retirement as a player. Pathetic tenure with the Toronto Raptors and the CBA and a mediocre at best tenure with the Indiana Pacers as coach. Then he comes here and ****s the bed. Once he's fired he goes to FIU and proceeds to do absolutely nothing to raise their level of play, despite his basketball "genius" and "eye for talent". He is a LOSER since his retirement. I want to win.

You left out Matt barnes

You are my best favorite poster +1000.0

Childs2Dudley wrote:

blkexec wrote:I guess I'm alone with this, but I think bringing Isiah back is a good idea. He's the only guy who has an eye for talent, and a connection with todays NBA stars.

The problem wasn't Isiah....It was Dolan giving Isiah too much power, without a defined task that fits his skill set.

I see no problem with Isiah as a players scout / player relations type guys. In some kind of consulting role!

This is what I judge Isiah on:

Seasons W-L
2004–05: 33-49
2005–06: 23-59
2006–07: 33-49
2007–08: 23-59

Players acquired:

Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov
Jermaine Jackson
Ime Udoka
Maurice Taylor
Malik Rose
Vin Baker
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Stephon Marbury
Eddy Curry
Fred Jones
Antonio Davis
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Penny Hardaway
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Demetris Nichols
Jackie Butler
Moochie Norris
Quentin Richardson
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
DerMarr Johnson
Nate Robinson

I really hate it when people try to give Isiah Thomas a break. WHY? What the hell did he do here that was so good? He left behind Lee and Chandler. That's it. 5 f'ing seasons and he left behind 2 decent to good players while trading away half his draft picks and overpaying the likes of Jeffries, Jerome and Curry. I blame him for that list because he acquired those players. Just like when people insulted Walsh for acquiring Roberson and the likes. Isiah signed, traded and drafted those players. Did he have a few good players along the way? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

Isiah's "eye for talent" is severely overrated. What he does have is the impeccable will to lose. He sucks ass now and sucked ass then. He has sucked in everything he has been involved in since his retirement as a player. Pathetic tenure with the Toronto Raptors and the CBA and a mediocre at best tenure with the Indiana Pacers as coach. Then he comes here and ****s the bed. Once he's fired he goes to FIU and proceeds to do absolutely nothing to raise their level of play, despite his basketball "genius" and "eye for talent". He is a LOSER since his retirement. I want to win.

Nice. Completely agree!

Isiah has a lot of issues. He fits the profile of a sociopath. He attempted suicide and said that it was his daughter. He went after guys on his team and tried to end their careers and make them scapegoats. He called out the fans, and minimally is on tape being racially insensitive and a chauvenistic. He treated coaches like crap. His treatment of Don Chaney was heartless. He fired all of Lenny Wilkens assistants and left Lenny to eventually leave on his own. He was not a good guy in NY. Maybe it was based on his huge ego but he did a lot of damage. Chasing the flavor of the month high salary character flawed former superstar put the Knicks in a horrible position. I am really excited about the current roster and I am glad Isiah is not around or a part of it. Isiah needs to shoot for reaching the plateau of 8 wins next year with FIU and avoid sexual harrassment lawsuits and statements that offend people because of their racial, or gender content. Enough with this guy. The Knicks seem to be headed in a positive direction two years after his reign ended.

And I completely agree with the GKF post. To try to make a case for getting Isiah back based on this ridiculous presumption about his eye for talent is beyond incomprehensible.

Solace wrote:No comment, other than I'm laughing my ass off at this thread.

It's what it merits

blkexec wrote:I guess I'm alone with this, but I think bringing Isiah back is a good idea. He's the only guy who has an eye for talent, and a connection with todays NBA stars.

The problem wasn't Isiah....It was Dolan giving Isiah too much power, without a defined task that fits his skill set.

I see no problem with Isiah as a players scout / player relations type guys. In some kind of consulting role!

This is the only balanced account^ without bias in this thread, thank you sir for contributing.

Some just hate the truth !

islesfan wrote:Dolan is getting smarter. His company can't be sued for sexual harassment if Isiah isn't officially hired. Gotta admire someone that learns from their mistakes.

ROFL!
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