iSergio wrote:BRIGGS, so you expect Danilo Gallinari to become Dirk Nowitzki and Anthony Randolph to become Chris Bosh?

So is this your new persona now? The super anti knick guy?

Theres no reason to think Gallo and AR wont put up 17/7 and 15/8 respectively. The third year is when most players make the most progress and I think that will hold true for our players. We have the front line of the future right now, we have to cap space to add players in the future, why are we considering butchering our team? This isnt NBA live and im tired of our team conducting itself as if it is.

iSergio wrote:Nooo I'm not one of those negative Knicks fans. I'm just being honest and realistic. And I don't see Dirk Nowitzki or Kevin Garnett talent with Danilo Gallinari or Anthony Randolph. Believe me, I hope I'm dead wrong and these two become the corner stones of this franchise alone with Amar'e Stoudemire.

They may not make it to superstar status - but they are the kinds of guys you want on your roster next to an Amare, Melo, or CP3 - they will go to war with you and help you win a series. Its letting go of these types of players and having no support talent that will gut a franchise. CP3 is a nice player but only at the right price.

fishmike wrote:Felton is a good PG. He's got a change to be a very good PG in this system. Right now this isnt a position of need for us, it simply isnt. Now a star SG? Thats a different story, but Briggs is right. We have all pined for this for years. Now we have 3 guys in the frontcourt who as a tandem can dominate. This is what you try to build. The pieces are there... lets let this thing cook now and develop. He's the patience part

This is the scenario that we've begged for for 10+ years. I know, I should be talking to the Knick prez instead of the fantasy team builders, but take time to taste the seasonings that have been placed in the pot. Maybe it's just right as is.

CP3 is a nice player but only at the right price.

Melo/Gallo/Amare/Randolph with a fast PG could be nearly unstoppable. You can't double either Melo or Amare, the floor is wide open with Gallo pulling a wing player 22 ft from the basket, and Randolph is as fast a 7 fter as you will ever find.

I don't know that Paul adds that much more than Felton that its worth giving up on either Gallo or Randolph. Again, any other player(s) and I would be interested.

What it comes down to is that I want Melo more than Paul, especially if my core is Melo/Gallo/Amare/Randolph.

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TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:if u think Ray Felton would average 16 & 10 in an MDA system, what kinds of numbers do u think CP3 could put up running the P&R w/the best P&R bigman in the NBA on every possession? to allow a player who is as yet a huge question mark like Anthony Randolph prevent you from acquiring the top PG in the game is foolish IMO.

Suppose they want Gallo? It's not just about AR. Also Amare played with a pretty good 2 time MVP PG before and it didn't mean a title. Perhaps we could take the approach that having the skills of AR or Gallo enhances the team in ways that would be of more value than a pairing that would be much like Nash/Amar'e. We really could use AR's shotblocking and energy as well as his length on D. Gallo's ability to stretch the floor is a great complement to Amar'e inside. What we're likely to get from Felton would be a solid PG not too far off from the best PG's in the league.

considering your favorite coach has only found success in his NBA coaching career while coaching a team w/a top notch PG & a topnotch bigman running the P&R in his offense, i would think you of all people would be in favor of getting CP3 to pair up with Amare... Ray Felton ain't taking this team anywhere, you can bank on that... we signed him to a 2 year contract for a reason.

I'm not saying that CP3 wouldn't be successful, but there's obviously more to the mixture than having a premier PG and PF who can run P&R. Stockton/Malone and Nash/Amare ran it like few others ever have, but it can be argued that it has it's limitations. I think Felton can run the P&R well enough, but keeping the 2 kids could turn out to be of more overall value in terms of team composition.

Also MDA's offense isn't really meant to run quite like it was under Nash or perhaps with CP3. Ball dominant guards aren't what the system is about. It just worked great cuz Nash was so good at what he did. MDA went with it and used it to perfection. He's not a stiff coach as many believe. He's very flexible in how he can use talent. I think Cp3 would be exciting and I wouldn't say no to him coming. I just think there's something to be said about keeping AR and Gallo and letting Felton run the show with a team that has length and skill few other teams have. Both Gallo and AR could be on the brink of busting out. A non ego PG like Felton would allow these other players to shine IMO. Not that CP3 wouldn't, just that Felton would more easily defer to his teammates. In a team concept that could work when you have other great players on the floor. like I said it's a tough call.

Word. Well put. Let's stand pat for now and see what we have. Paul isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

BRIGGS wrote:why in Gods name would i even consider trading either of these guys--and I wasnt so sure about Gallo at the start--that shows I play a straight shooter.

we have three superstars on the frontline--- Chris paul Give me Ray felton and let me keep my guys--find some impact bench players and go to war.

I am a big chris paul fan, I think he is the best pg in the league, but it is not like duhon is our PG now.. felton is.. Is paul that much better than felton to want to give up two young prospects like gallo and AR? I am with you briggs.

AnubisADL wrote:Why do we insist on hyping guys to extreme levels?

Guys usually breakout their 3rd year. If we dont see enough potential we can still trade either next summer.

And really Gallo is entering his second full season, since the first one was a bust due to the back. But I think Gallo blows up this season. HE's going to be a monster and I wouldn't trade him for anyone not named "Melo". The ONLY reason I would trade him for Melo is that they fill the same spot on the roster and I don't think it would be good to have Gallo come off the bench.

Randolph is a underdeveloped body with great athletic ability but low fundamentals and bad shot selection. His potential is great but he has not established himself like gallo has nor proven to stay healthy.

They have very different games. Gallo can open the floor up and given his size and ability it is not a common skill set.

Most people feel that if you bring in Paul you need this type of ball player.

If you want to bring in Carmello and it was a trade senario then Gallo would be expendable.

I like the idea of both AR and Gallo.

Your original distain for Gallo's hype being of a community background.

What is really "alarming" about the desire for many fans to want to keep Gallo?

He is a drafted player by us who posses shooting ability, works hard and is marketable.

I can only guess what really "alarms" you!

You really think the league lacks black marketable players?

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Gallo is a 6-10 big fram 21 year old kid filling out and is one of the leagues best shooters with a decent handle.

Randolph is a underdeveloped body with great athletic ability but low fundamentals and bad shot selection. His potential is great but he has not established himself like gallo has nor proven to stay healthy.

They have very different games. Gallo can open the floor up and given his size and ability it is not a common skill set.

Most people feel that if you bring in Paul you need this type of ball player.

If you want to bring in Carmello and it was a trade senario then Gallo would be expendable.

I like the idea of both AR and Gallo.

Your original distain for Gallo's hype being of a community background.

What is really "alarming" about the desire for many fans to want to keep Gallo?

He is a drafted player by us who posses shooting ability, works hard and is marketable.

I can only guess what really "alarms" you!

You really think the league lacks black marketable players?

You are wayyyy off man.

You make Randolph who started his pro career playing with a nutty coach (Don sippy cup Nelson)some kind of under privelege kid who can't walk and chew bubble gum.

Danphoney himself last night on KNICKS LIVE TALK said Gallo can't just try and come to play in certain situations or 4th qtrs heroics but play consistently ALL DURING THE GAME for 82 games. He said that Gallo's head has to be into an entire game. That sounds just as dysfunctional as your trying to make Randolph saying his fundamentals are poor and he has bad shot selection.

What I was trying is this, You can't put one over the other, they both are 21 yrs of age and both missed a ton of games at least 1 yr in their career, but Gallo has actually played professionally since he was 16 yrs of age with grown men.

Stop with the color thing man, this is about skills on the basketball court.