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playa2
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7/23/2010  7:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  7:45 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Playa,

D'antoni told Marbury to come in great shape and then he didn't play him.

Considering Marbury's selfishness, lack of integrity, and terrible reputation around the league, isn't this something that Marbury deserved?

Just because a coach tells you to come in great shape, doesn't mean he HAS TO give you minutes. Coming into camp in shap should be the job of every professional athlete.

Unless you're that bum Eddy Curry, that is. You guys know I was gonna throw that in there.

What you may have forgot is Walsh had no idea Danphoney wasn't going to play in the beginning of the season , becuz Walsh himself was going to use Marbury for trade bait as an expiring contract. Instead we bought him out(full pay) so Steph won the pissing contest between himself and Danphoney.

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7/23/2010  7:57 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  7:58 AM
playa2 wrote:Hahn seem to think Dantoni would rather have a stronger bench than starting lineup with Azubuike in starting lineup instead of Wilson Chandler who has improved every year since he's been in the league.

i don't get this whole 'chandler has improved every year he's been in the league' thing. i've mentioned it a few times this offseason and have presented the stats to back it up. chandler per36mins has had the same exact stats across the board all 3 years he's been in the league. what exactly has he improved on?

i'm not trying to rag on chandler either, i like him. i just don't get this idea that he's improved night and day. he hasn't.

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7/23/2010  8:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  8:16 AM
Each year Wilson has progressed defensively on the knicks.

Name one other player that Danphoney can count on to effectively defend multiple positions ?

Have you noticeD the knicks coach will place Wilson on the best scorer on the other team.

Don't let his injury last yr and a little tree smoking incident in his Benz make you assume he doesn't have "IT" anymore.

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7/23/2010  8:28 AM
playa2 wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Playa,

D'antoni told Marbury to come in great shape and then he didn't play him.

Considering Marbury's selfishness, lack of integrity, and terrible reputation around the league, isn't this something that Marbury deserved?

Just because a coach tells you to come in great shape, doesn't mean he HAS TO give you minutes. Coming into camp in shap should be the job of every professional athlete.

Unless you're that bum Eddy Curry, that is. You guys know I was gonna throw that in there.

What you may have forgot is Walsh had no idea Danphoney wasn't going to play in the beginning of the season , becuz Walsh himself was going to use Marbury for trade bait as an expiring contract. Instead we bought him out(full pay) so Steph won the pissing contest between himself and Danphoney.

Marbury has a great track record and his trade value would have been higher if MDA played him. That's a very astute way you have read that scenario.

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7/23/2010  8:30 AM
playa2 wrote:Each year Wilson has progressed defensively on the knicks.

Name one other player that Danphoney can count on to effectively defend multiple positions ?

Have you noticeD the knicks coach will place Wilson on the best scorer on the other team.

Don't let his injury last yr and a little tree smoking incident in his Benz make you assume he doesn't have "IT" anymore.

neither of those things have affected anything for me.

anyways, so now we've gone from 'he's improved every year' to he's 'improved defensively every year' most likely because there are no stats to quantify his improvement defensively and back up your assertion?

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7/23/2010  8:32 AM
Wilson Chandler is very overrated defensively. Who exactly has he stopped? Players (LeBitch, Kobe, Carmelo Anthony) scored at will against him.
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7/23/2010  8:55 AM
I'm surprised that Hahn doesnt project Mosgov in the line up. I cant imagine that the Knicks spent 3 million on a new player that will sit at the end of the bench or be behind Eddy Curry in the rotation.
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7/23/2010  9:01 AM
kingofelpaso wrote:I'm surprised that Hahn doesnt project Mosgov in the line up. I cant imagine that the Knicks spent 3 million on a new player that will sit at the end of the bench or be behind Eddy Curry in the rotation.

Might not project for the lineup this year, but I think the Knicks have big hopes for him.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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7/23/2010  9:06 AM
playa2 wrote:Dan dantoni told walker to lose weight, the last time a dantoni told a player to come in great shape he didn't even play him(Marbury)

umm I don't think D'Antoni said that. He did say EVERYONE would be given a fair shot (which marbury did not receive but, in retrospect, seeing how off his frigging rocker he was/is, I feel coach did the right thing

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/23/2010  9:09 AM
I agree with most who think chandler has improve..Actually the only thing that has improve with him i his baskettball IQ...

He's certainly not a keeper if a trade is on the table.

Chandler needs to come of the bench just for the fact that he can sub for 3 different positions..

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8/4/2010  4:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/4/2010  4:12 PM
Tomorrows episode looks like it is going to be good.. http://video.msg.com/Home/Don-t-Miss-Knicks-Night-Live
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8/4/2010  4:25 PM
TMac wrote:Tomorrows episode looks like it is going to be good.. http://video.msg.com/Home/Don-t-Miss-Knicks-Night-Live

I'm really enjoying this show every Thursday. Great idea they had, putting this thing together once a week during the off-season. I'm hooked.

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8/4/2010  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/4/2010  4:50 PM
playa2 wrote:Knicks Night Live talk

Alan Hahn Projected starters for the 2010 season:
Turiaf
Amare
Gallanari
Azuibuke
Felton

Bench
Curry
Randolph
Chandler
Walker
Douglas

I think if that is the starters the bench if healthy is a lil more athletic than the starting lineupif curry comes in healthy in his contract year.

Discuss

Before Hahn mentioned Turiaf as his starting 5, he actually made it a point to discuss Curry as the possible starting center...I remember I almost spit up my Cheerios when he said that, I couldn't believe it..The entire panel laughed at him esp. Trautwig who went on to call it a fairy-tale among other things..Hahn normally does a decent job but he's way off base on this..I couldn't believe he said that...Curry's not gonna play. I think it's obvious and for good reason..I guarantee anything right now that he's nowhere near being in shape, as per usual. His style of play never meshed with what we used to have and certainly doesn't mesh with any of the new talent. So there's that..Next, coach obviously doesn't care for him -- we even heard the rumor that Mike possibly guaranteed Mozgov and his reps. playing time over Curry if it came down to it. Not sure how something like that gets leaked (Mozgov's people I'm assuming), but I can believe it...Then there's all this other off-the-court nonsense: first, he supposedly trashed D'Antoni to LBJ during their little summer rendezvous. Don't think for a second that MDA & the Knicks don't know about that...There was the second arrest warrant just issued in conjunction with a 2nd failed court appearance, yet another black eye..And now we're hearing EC's own lawyers may have bailed on him for lack of payment..This dude's a straight up mess..No way this guy even cracks the rotation, let alone the starting five. I think there's a very good chance he's played his last game in the NBA..I can understand wanting to keep his expiring contract around for a possible deal during the year, but I tell ya what dudes, I might just cut his sorry fat ass right now and be done with him..

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8/4/2010  4:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/4/2010  7:03 PM
Kelly Tripucka question --

Does anyone know exactly what the story was behind Kelly's public address to the Charlotte fans one game way back when? I think the fans were giving him a hard time and he decided to address them over the loudspeaker either at haftime, or before/after a game..Can't find anything about that now on Google or on Youtube but I remember it happening...Anyone remember exactly what that was all about? Was he defending himself personally or was it the team?? Whatever it was, it's long under the bridge now..I think he actually does a great job providing insight on MSG btw..

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8/4/2010  11:51 PM
playa2 wrote:Each year Wilson has progressed defensively on the knicks.

Name one other player that Danphoney can count on to effectively defend multiple positions ?

Have you noticeD the knicks coach will place Wilson on the best scorer on the other team.

Don't let his injury last yr and a little tree smoking incident in his Benz make you assume he doesn't have "IT" anymore.


I agree. I think a combo of Buike, or Gallo and Randolph coming off the bench might be better than bringing Chandler off the bench. Gallo can heat up and Randolph is a game changer. I think going against second units those guys would dominate. I think whomever comes off the bench of the big three of the future, Gallo, Chandler and Randolph, all of them need to get at least 30+ minutes a game.
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8/5/2010  5:25 AM
I like Gallo and Azubuike as starters with Amare. They stretch the field for Amare.
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8/5/2010  7:38 AM
Amare at the 4 will actually give us the ability to start the big Russian. Amare will be a diversion and draw double teams often leaving who ever mans the 5 open.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/5/2010  8:52 AM
I'd start Amar'e Stoudemire and Anthony Randolph. Don't really care who is known as the Center. I'd start our best players. No need to hold Randolph back.
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8/5/2010  10:44 AM
knicks1248 wrote:I agree with most who think chandler has improve..Actually the only thing that has improve with him i his baskettball IQ...

He's certainly not a keeper if a trade is on the table.

Chandler needs to come of the bench just for the fact that he can sub for 3 different positions..


I don't get this mentality. If a guy is starter quality you start him.
If he can play 3 positions, great. Then if another starter needs to sit, you can slide him to another position.
What's the problem?

I'm not stating that he's a starter or not a starter, just don't get your reasoning.

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8/5/2010  1:02 PM
Finestrg wrote:
TMac wrote:Tomorrows episode looks like it is going to be good.. http://video.msg.com/Home/Don-t-Miss-Knicks-Night-Live

I'm really enjoying this show every Thursday. Great idea they had, putting this thing together once a week during the off-season. I'm hooked.

Yeah, this definitely gives me my Kicks fix until at least the preseason starts.

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