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Paladin55
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7/16/2010  11:00 AM
Eh... Tommy Dee is just like us. He has a few contacts he uses, follows twitter and reads up on other internet sources, and has his own opinions on things.

Can't anyone around here start their own blog and do the same thing? He just had the guts to do it, I guess.

If there was a Briggs Blog where Briggs looked at NBA prospects I would look at it even if I eventually discovered that I disagreed with some of the things he said. It would be a good starting source for discussion, though.

By the way, can anyone find Tommy Dee's posts where he completely ripped into AR as a player?

I was known to be critical of Randolph when comparing what he or Gallinari could bring to the table. Briggs actually put my "name" in a thread title because I was critical about him, but I never thought that the guy did not have talent and potential. I was looking at playing styles, composure, maturity level, and whether the way he liked to play the game could blend into a team concept when comparing him with Gallinari, and who we should have taken

I saw enough clips of Randolph to know he was, and is, as talented as any player in the league, but I have also seen him play poorly and foolishly, and read GS fans question his long term value, and coaches talk about the gaps in his consistency as a player, even as they praised some of the things he could do on the court.

Well he is on the team I root for now, and I am damn happy to have him here. He has two years of seasoning, and hopefully the problems he had with Nellie are behind him, and MDA can incorporate his talents.

I want to see a full season of Gallo and Randolph getting 35+ MPG, and see how these guys play together. They the potential to be one of the most dynamic young forward combos in the league for the next 10 years, if not the best, IMO. Both guys have length, all kinds of offensive skills, can play D, handle the ball, and pass. On any other team, fans would be sitting back and dreaming about these guys leading their team to a title, in NYC, we are already thinking of how we can flip them for a star.

Give them a year together, and hopefully we may reach a point where the realization sinks in that we don't want to, or have to, trade one of these guys for an established star because they have become that good together.

MDA will play AR if he does not disrupt the offense and do things out of the flow, and if Randolph can learn to pick and choose the right times to use his many skills, we are going to have a lot of fun watching him play big minutes, and the Knicks are going to win a lot of games. If Gallo and Randolph each average 35+ MPG this year (and the team has no major injuries), we will win the 45-50 games I am predicting for this team, and maybe even a few more.

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7/16/2010  12:09 PM
Does Tommy Dee really love A Randolph, or did he just repeat what someone else said about Randolph
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7/16/2010  12:23 PM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:To bad he didnt know who the h he was or mention his name before a week ago!!!!! But now you love him Jesus Mike Crispino keeps on hawking why Nelson sat down Randolph for the last 50 games---dude doesnt even realize he busted up his ankle and was on IR??? These guys are fake!!!! By the way Tommy Dee--the Knicks will be starting Randolph--why because Randolph is light years better than Turriaf.


http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/15/did-i-mention-i-love-this-kid/

You forget who our coach is. Unless Randolph grasps the subtle genius of the SSOL offense, he will be starting the year off on the bench.

MDA says he plays his best players.

What he should say is he plays the players who best grasp how smart MDA & his system are

I think Turiaf starts and is much like Jefferies - a stabilizing presence on both ends of the floor.

Just hope Randolph gets some decent minutes.

If any coach would start Randolph, it would be MDA. Dont you guys accuse him of small/speed ball? If thats the case wouldn't he start Randolph at center even though he isn't a center? You guys hate of MDA is blinding logic. LB, Van Gundy and coaches of that ilk wouldn't start Randoplh because he's a power forward as is Stoudemire and last I checked Stoudemire is better than Randolph (as you say, play your best players). Stoudemire is already on record as saying he doesn't want to play center.

Turiaf defensive/hustle player who will cover Stoudemire's back defensively and he has the type of personality that he can accept playing reduced mins (20-25 min) eventhough he is a starter. Randolph will still play more mins than Turiaf and I'm sure will be there at the close of games. Stoudemire wouldn't mind playing 15 mins or so at center but I'm sure he doesn't want to start there.

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7/16/2010  3:49 PM
Uptown wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:To bad he didnt know who the h he was or mention his name before a week ago!!!!! But now you love him Jesus Mike Crispino keeps on hawking why Nelson sat down Randolph for the last 50 games---dude doesnt even realize he busted up his ankle and was on IR??? These guys are fake!!!! By the way Tommy Dee--the Knicks will be starting Randolph--why because Randolph is light years better than Turriaf.


http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/15/did-i-mention-i-love-this-kid/

You forget who our coach is. Unless Randolph grasps the subtle genius of the SSOL offense, he will be starting the year off on the bench.

MDA says he plays his best players.

What he should say is he plays the players who best grasp how smart MDA & his system are

I think Turiaf starts and is much like Jefferies - a stabilizing presence on both ends of the floor.

Just hope Randolph gets some decent minutes.

If any coach would start Randolph, it would be MDA. Dont you guys accuse him of small/speed ball? If thats the case wouldn't he start Randolph at center even though he isn't a center? You guys hate of MDA is blinding logic. LB, Van Gundy and coaches of that ilk wouldn't start Randoplh because he's a power forward as is Stoudemire and last I checked Stoudemire is better than Randolph (as you say, play your best players). Stoudemire is already on record as saying he doesn't want to play center.

Turiaf defensive/hustle player who will cover Stoudemire's back defensively and he has the type of personality that he can accept playing reduced mins (20-25 min) eventhough he is a starter. Randolph will still play more mins than Turiaf and I'm sure will be there at the close of games. Stoudemire wouldn't mind playing 15 mins or so at center but I'm sure he doesn't want to start there.

from first glance, you would think Nate Robinson would have excelled in MDA's system too... a guy who loves to press the ball up the floor, a guy who can run uptempo, a guy who can shoot well from beyond the arc... but he was the bane to MDA's existence in reality... there are certain guys that MDA takes a liking to, & there are others who he grows disenchanted with quickly... hopefully AR falls into the former category... i'm sick of seeing talented young players go to waste because of personality conflicts that this coach is either unwilling or incapable of dealing with.

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7/16/2010  4:19 PM
Uptown wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:To bad he didnt know who the h he was or mention his name before a week ago!!!!! But now you love him Jesus Mike Crispino keeps on hawking why Nelson sat down Randolph for the last 50 games---dude doesnt even realize he busted up his ankle and was on IR??? These guys are fake!!!! By the way Tommy Dee--the Knicks will be starting Randolph--why because Randolph is light years better than Turriaf.


http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/15/did-i-mention-i-love-this-kid/

You forget who our coach is. Unless Randolph grasps the subtle genius of the SSOL offense, he will be starting the year off on the bench.

MDA says he plays his best players.

What he should say is he plays the players who best grasp how smart MDA & his system are

I think Turiaf starts and is much like Jefferies - a stabilizing presence on both ends of the floor.

Just hope Randolph gets some decent minutes.

If any coach would start Randolph, it would be MDA. Dont you guys accuse him of small/speed ball? If thats the case wouldn't he start Randolph at center even though he isn't a center? You guys hate of MDA is blinding logic. LB, Van Gundy and coaches of that ilk wouldn't start Randoplh because he's a power forward as is Stoudemire and last I checked Stoudemire is better than Randolph (as you say, play your best players). Stoudemire is already on record as saying he doesn't want to play center.

Turiaf defensive/hustle player who will cover Stoudemire's back defensively and he has the type of personality that he can accept playing reduced mins (20-25 min) eventhough he is a starter. Randolph will still play more mins than Turiaf and I'm sure will be there at the close of games. Stoudemire wouldn't mind playing 15 mins or so at center but I'm sure he doesn't want to start there.

+1

Dont you think AR replaces JJ as the starting center?

We will probably start 4 VERY big and long players in Chandler, Gallo, Amare and AR with Felton. Play zone, go for steals, work the boards, block shots and release on the break.

Lets see what happens.

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7/16/2010  4:54 PM
I know he responded to my post where he knocked him when we were breaking down the 2008 draft. It was roughly two years ago. Not too long after the 2008 draft. When Thomas dunked on AR in the season, I remember him knocking him then too. But like I said he wasn't alone.
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7/16/2010  6:16 PM
Pharzeone wrote:I know he responded to my post where he knocked him when we were breaking down the 2008 draft. It was roughly two years ago. Not too long after the 2008 draft. When Thomas dunked on AR in the season, I remember him knocking him then too. But like I said he wasn't alone.

people were posting up threads about AR crying on the sidelines after he got dunked on by Thomas last year... now everyone loves him... go figure.

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7/16/2010  6:23 PM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:To bad he didnt know who the h he was or mention his name before a week ago!!!!! But now you love him Jesus Mike Crispino keeps on hawking why Nelson sat down Randolph for the last 50 games---dude doesnt even realize he busted up his ankle and was on IR??? These guys are fake!!!! By the way Tommy Dee--the Knicks will be starting Randolph--why because Randolph is light years better than Turriaf.


http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/15/did-i-mention-i-love-this-kid/

You forget who our coach is. Unless Randolph grasps the subtle genius of the SSOL offense, he will be starting the year off on the bench.

MDA says he plays his best players.

What he should say is he plays the players who best grasp how smart MDA & his system are

I think Turiaf starts and is much like Jefferies - a stabilizing presence on both ends of the floor.

Just hope Randolph gets some decent minutes.

If any coach would start Randolph, it would be MDA. Dont you guys accuse him of small/speed ball? If thats the case wouldn't he start Randolph at center even though he isn't a center? You guys hate of MDA is blinding logic. LB, Van Gundy and coaches of that ilk wouldn't start Randoplh because he's a power forward as is Stoudemire and last I checked Stoudemire is better than Randolph (as you say, play your best players). Stoudemire is already on record as saying he doesn't want to play center.

Turiaf defensive/hustle player who will cover Stoudemire's back defensively and he has the type of personality that he can accept playing reduced mins (20-25 min) eventhough he is a starter. Randolph will still play more mins than Turiaf and I'm sure will be there at the close of games. Stoudemire wouldn't mind playing 15 mins or so at center but I'm sure he doesn't want to start there.

+1

Dont you think AR replaces JJ as the starting center?

We will probably start 4 VERY big and long players in Chandler, Gallo, Amare and AR with Felton. Play zone, go for steals, work the boards, block shots and release on the break.

Lets see what happens.

If Turiaf is healthy, I could see him starting at center (merely as window dressing, and to keep Randoplh out of foul trouble) but I definitely think we will see Randolph, Stat and Gallo get the majority of mins up front. Good point about replacing JJ in the starting lineup, hadn't thought about that. If he does, I just hope he doesn't have Randoplh guarding pg's at the top because we will lose out on Randolphs help defense in the paint.

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7/16/2010  7:09 PM
TMS wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:I know he responded to my post where he knocked him when we were breaking down the 2008 draft. It was roughly two years ago. Not too long after the 2008 draft. When Thomas dunked on AR in the season, I remember him knocking him then too. But like I said he wasn't alone.

people were posting up threads about AR crying on the sidelines after he got dunked on by Thomas last year... now everyone loves him... go figure.

everyone loved his talent, but I think most(including myself) question his mental toughness.. the more I learn about the kid, the more I like, but I will still wonder about his toughness until he has some games in NY under his belt.. but as a talent, people love, the potential.. that is exciting for most of us fans..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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7/16/2010  9:24 PM
That was funny when he went to the sidelines to cry...
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7/17/2010  12:47 AM
tkf wrote:
TMS wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:I know he responded to my post where he knocked him when we were breaking down the 2008 draft. It was roughly two years ago. Not too long after the 2008 draft. When Thomas dunked on AR in the season, I remember him knocking him then too. But like I said he wasn't alone.

people were posting up threads about AR crying on the sidelines after he got dunked on by Thomas last year... now everyone loves him... go figure.

everyone loved his talent, but I think most(including myself) question his mental toughness.. the more I learn about the kid, the more I like, but I will still wonder about his toughness until he has some games in NY under his belt.. but as a talent, people love, the potential.. that is exciting for most of us fans..

hey bro, i'm hoping for the best with AR just like any other Knick fan... the kid has undeniable talent... let's just hope he turns out to be the next Camby or better for us... we could use something good to happen to our franchise after all the crap we've had to deal with.

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