Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:I'll tell you what says more about MDA in the minds of FA's, WINNING! Amare got the money he wanted and it didn't matter that he had issues with MDA in the past. When we get more wins this year and get into the playoffs that will pretty much kill any anti MDA squawking from the losers we let go.

Papabear Says

Yea how far do we go in the playoffs? D'Antoni is already bad mouthing The Russian Center. I bet he refuse to play him. D'Antoni is now on the clock.

Mike D is absolutely now on the clock. He has a decent roster to work with. A balanced roster. One that is set up to get added to.

If he doesn't produce then he should leave at the end of the season.

He can't be yanking players around and can't be playing his stupid 7 man run everyone into the ground rotation and can't be just letting guys fling from 30 feet away every play.

Time to coach. The throwaway seasons are done. This one's for real.

Time to do your job and do it properly, Mike.

Who cares what a career selfish player like Al says? Some players take advantage of the freedom MDA gives and play unselfish team ball and then others just mess up the whole offense. Yeah Al would score on a lot of his solo forays, but then the team would suffer from the lack of ball movement. In the end this team will be able to show just how much talent it has when we have the ball moving as fast as it should in a D'Antoni team. All this drama about what MDA is gonna do as if the only way he can win is with Nash running the point. No he just need a competent PG that can push the ball and make the right decisions. When Duhon actually was able to play well you saw just how potent MDA's offense could be. Those that keep hanging on the hope that he's some kind of fraud will be bitterly disappointed. Great Players and other coaches call him a genius for a reason and our horrible rosters the last 2 years doesn't make him a bum all of a sudden. Once again just remember all the coaches we had that failed here. It just may be possible that it wasn't the coaches alone, but just maybe having a well balanced team with players that have a winning team mentality will be the difference.

"When we won a game and I played well he
wouldn't even mention me in his postgame
comments.

joec32033 wrote:Honestly this is the best quote:

"When we won a game and I played well he
wouldn't even mention me in his postgame
comments.

This one summed it up for me.

Yes a lot of players have criticised the coach, but look at who they were:

Marbury
Al
Larry Hughes
Nate Robinson
Eddy Curry
Darko
T-Mac

I mean, which of those has a winners mentality? Notice one thing that they all have in common is that they are all selfish players who don't like to pass.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Sad when players say the same things fans says. Mike D'Antoni's offense is jack 3's.

is that your take? cause then your understanding is as good as The Knucklehead's.

A coach is supposed to make guys play the way he wants them too. Harrington was never benched to my recollection. So I can assume D'Antoni had no problems with Harrington's play.

If Harrington didn't play the way Skiles wanted him too then he would be sitting on the bench. Simple as that.

whose to say harrington didn't like playing this way. yeah he says he didn't like shooting 3's all game now, but he's been a boneheaded gunner the last few years before he joined the knicks anyway. which is a shame because al used to be a very good defensive player who let the game come to him instead of chucking away like he's done at his last few stops.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Sad when players say the same things fans says. Mike D'Antoni's offense is jack 3's.

is that your take? cause then your understanding is as good as The Knucklehead's.

A coach is supposed to make guys play the way he wants them too. Harrington was never benched to my recollection. So I can assume D'Antoni had no problems with Harrington's play.

If Harrington didn't play the way Skiles wanted him too then he would be sitting on the bench. Simple as that.

What was MDA gonna do? The guy was moved from starter to bench and we did need him. He didn't hate everything about him, just his tendency to be selfish. He promised to pass more and didn't do it. Now he's gone. That's the ultimate way to handle this. You don't want to have to discipline half your roster cuz they don't understand how to play team ball or just can't get it done period. SO you get rid of those players and bring in guys that are known to be good team players and have the talent to help teams win. That's what we did here.

Selfish guys GONE.

He clearly reads this thread!

When asked today if the knicks had any Plans to bring back al he said "hell no"

CrushAlot wrote:The team came out of training camp 1-9 and there were complaints about professional conduct. Harrington was one of the more accomplished vets on the team last year and during one of his shows D'Antoni said Harrington was probably the team leader because he was the biggest. Later in the year it was reported that D'Antoni wanted Harrington traded because he was a bad influence on the young players. D'Antoni may have had an issue with the level of maturity Harrington displayed or the amount of influence he had in the locker room. There were a lot of communication issues between some players and the coach last year.

We should have a much better locker room this year with Amare and Turiaf. A lot of good citizens on this team, IMO. Responsible and team oriented players, some who have been on winning teams and hung out in playoff locker rooms.

From where I was watching, without having the benefit of any games under our belt to judge our player chemistry, I think this is one of the better mixes of guys we have had on the Knicks in a long time. Only time will tell, though.

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Sad when players say the same things fans says. Mike D'Antoni's offense is jack 3's.

is that your take? cause then your understanding is as good as The Knucklehead's.

here comes martin to the rescue!!

I think martin gets notifications in his e-mail acct every time someone speaks ill about MDA. What I love is you keep defending MDA's offense but you never bother to explain it.

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Sad when players say the same things fans says. Mike D'Antoni's offense is jack 3's.

is that your take? cause then your understanding is as good as The Knucklehead's.

here comes martin to the rescue!!

I think martin gets notifications in his e-mail acct every time someone speaks ill about MDA. What I love is you keep defending MDA's offense but you never bother to explain it.

I am not defending it at all - that would be more on the lines of saying it's the best thing since sliced bread - but I am calling folks out who think it's all about shooting 3pointers, that's plain dumb.

Every NBA offense has a certain amount of spacing and 3point shooting involved, no other way around that.

A majority of PHO's offense when MDA was there was pick-n-roll with Amare and Nash, no? With shooters to help balance the floor.

One of the premises of the SSOL offense is to initiate offense before the other teams' defense is not set - pushing the ball and trying to get something easy within the first 7 seconds is the first option but not the only one. In fact, you could say that Showtime with the 80s Lakers was kinda the same (the pushing the ball up the court part).

A large part of what was told to us about what MDA was talking to LeBron about during the Knicks' presentation was all of the options with pick-n-roll sets with LeBron and Amare; nothing about 3point shooting.

Like that.