playa2 wrote:

Cosmic wrote:Gallo untouchable? Not a chance, playa.

If the right trade is there (Chris Paul?) then you pack Gallo's bags.

Is he over rated? Yes, he is. However he has shown some very high skill level, a high basketball IQ, leadership qualities, great work ethic, a desire to improve, love for the game, and a clean image.

Is he going to be Dirk? No one can say. What we do know is he isn't Lampe. He isn't a guy you just throw in a trade unless you're getting an exceptional talent back in return. It is a given that this kid will improve his game. How much we don't know but the ceiling is so very high at this moment for him - whereas for a player like Chandler you're starting to really see where his ceiling is. So when you talk trade you talk Chandler (the player who is peaking) versus Gallo (the player with no known ceiling).

Gallo has the chance to be something special. Just to talk about our last kid we traded--- Jordan Hill did not.

You don't trade the "chance to be special" kids unless it's a really big deal.

Wondering if anybody had any information on him in Italy. Him being so important to the team, i just assumed we would be keeping tabs on him and what he's up to.

I wouldn't worry about a player like Gallo. From his work ethic alone it's a given he's working out, in good shape, working on his game, and eager to get back out on the court.

You worry about your Currys, Harringtons, QBricks, and Duhons. Players known to slack off. Players known to blow off summer and use camp and preseason to try to force themselves back into shape.

You don't worry about your Toney Douglas', Gallo's, or Walkers. You know they're coming to camp improved.

nyk4ever wrote:

playa2 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My impression of Gallo is that he very much wants to be great. I'm sure he is taking this very seriously and working on the parts of his game he was instructed to work on. Nothing he's done so far suggests anything less than that from this kid.

You would think we would hear some good news on him working out in Italy or what parts of his game he's been working on etc...

Like if he put on more weight and became more chiseled like Bill Walker.

we'll find out when he comes back what he's been working on. i thought i remember reading something a few weeks back that he was working with a noted doctor in italy doing back strengthening. he's said that he's coming back august 1 to work at the knicks training facility with the coaches. what's wilson chandler doing? what's eddy curry doing?

your veiled attempts here are see-through bro.

He's coming back Aug 1st, well at least somebody has some info, it's almost like he isn't on the team ...nobody was talking about him for this upcoming season.

CrushAlot wrote:Anytime I see interviews with D'Antoni my enthusiasm lessens. Playa's post started with the quotes from D'Antoni about tempering expectations. I am just tired of his act. I have a tough time with this coach and I am not sure if he can be successful with this roster or any roster that doesn't have the league mvp running his offense. I think that quote and the tabloids covering his interviews brought ought some negativity on my part.

Most coaches are not going to go overboard when commenting on their team before the season, more so one who has so many new players to mold into a team.

I'm a NYC HS coach and had some really good teams in my sport at the beginning of this decade, and there were times when I had to speak to the local reporters covering HS sports, and I would pretty much say the same kind of things as MDA. "We can achieve this...if that happens; So and so was a key performer and has to contribute again; This or that athlete has to improve over the previous year; Our depth is thin so we have to be concerned about injuries." Pretty basic stuff- you take a specific look at some of your athletes- highlighting your key performers, and that is about it. Few NBA coaches are going to say "We are a lock to win 60 games, no doubt about it." Too many variables which come into play to have that amount of certitude.

A coach does not want to pump up his team or players too much. Jerry Manual pumping up Daniel Murphy as a right fielder and dismissing the other guy they had -Church- was idiotic- and I told people that when he did it. He had to find out the rough way that Murphy could not play the outfield, and was not as good of a hitter as he had determined- based on some games at the end of the previous year.

MDA is cautiously optimistic, I can assure you, maybe more optimistic than he will let out, but he is not going to tell any of us directly.

With this said- he has all the tools he needs to have a good team, IMO. At the very least, this team has to play over .500 ball, and in my opinion, Walsh has given him the tools to be better than that. If we start hearing about personality problems between him and Randolph, and he does not play deserving players, I think that Walsh, or whoever is in charge by the end of the year, has to look critically at our coaching staff and who will be leading the team in the future.

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Anytime I see interviews with D'Antoni my enthusiasm lessens. Playa's post started with the quotes from D'Antoni about tempering expectations. I am just tired of his act. I have a tough time with this coach and I am not sure if he can be successful with this roster or any roster that doesn't have the league mvp running his offense. I think that quote and the tabloids covering his interviews brought ought some negativity on my part.

It is coach talk, simple as that.

Most coaches are not going to go overboard when commenting on their team before the season, more so one who has so many new players to mold into a team.

I'm a NYC HS coach and had some really good teams in my sport at the beginning of this decade, and there were times when I had to speak to the local reporters covering HS sports, and I would pretty much say the same kind of things as MDA. "We can achieve this...if that happens; So and so was a key performer and has to contribute again; This or that athlete has to improve over the previous year; Our depth is thin so we have to be concerned about injuries." Pretty basic stuff- you take a specific look at some of your athletes- highlighting your key performers, and that is about it. Few NBA coaches are going to say "We are a lock to win 60 games, no doubt about it." Too many variables which come into play to have that amount of certitude.

A coach does not want to pump up his team or players too much. Jerry Manual pumping up Daniel Murphy as a right fielder and dismissing the other guy they had -Church- was idiotic- and I told people that when he did it. He had to find out the rough way that Murphy could not play the outfield, and was not as good of a hitter as he had determined- based on some games at the end of the previous year.

MDA is cautiously optimistic, I can assure you, maybe more optimistic than he will let out, but he is not going to tell any of us directly.

With this said- he has all the tools he needs to have a good team, IMO. At the very least, this team has to play over .500 ball, and in my opinion, Walsh has given him the tools to be better than that. If we start hearing about personality problems between him and Randolph, and he does not play deserving players, I think that Walsh, or whoever is in charge by the end of the year, has to look critically at our coaching staff and who will be leading the team in the future.

Paladin55 wrote:

Marv wrote:

Gallanari what is he up to in Italy ?

overseas scouting for the alba draft.

Yup...You don't (or can't) block the Cock.

I swear to god, I wanna see somebody from the UK Crew holding this up on a sign this year & I will do everything in my power to get my friends in the MSG or TNT tv trucks to get that crowd shot on air....Genius!!!

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Anytime I see interviews with D'Antoni my enthusiasm lessens. Playa's post started with the quotes from D'Antoni about tempering expectations. I am just tired of his act. I have a tough time with this coach and I am not sure if he can be successful with this roster or any roster that doesn't have the league mvp running his offense. I think that quote and the tabloids covering his interviews brought ought some negativity on my part.

It is coach talk, simple as that.

Most coaches are not going to go overboard when commenting on their team before the season, more so one who has so many new players to mold into a team.

I'm a NYC HS coach and had some really good teams in my sport at the beginning of this decade, and there were times when I had to speak to the local reporters covering HS sports, and I would pretty much say the same kind of things as MDA. "We can achieve this...if that happens; So and so was a key performer and has to contribute again; This or that athlete has to improve over the previous year; Our depth is thin so we have to be concerned about injuries." Pretty basic stuff- you take a specific look at some of your athletes- highlighting your key performers, and that is about it. Few NBA coaches are going to say "We are a lock to win 60 games, no doubt about it." Too many variables which come into play to have that amount of certitude.

A coach does not want to pump up his team or players too much. Jerry Manual pumping up Daniel Murphy as a right fielder and dismissing the other guy they had -Church- was idiotic- and I told people that when he did it. He had to find out the rough way that Murphy could not play the outfield, and was not as good of a hitter as he had determined- based on some games at the end of the previous year.

MDA is cautiously optimistic, I can assure you, maybe more optimistic than he will let out, but he is not going to tell any of us directly.

With this said- he has all the tools he needs to have a good team, IMO. At the very least, this team has to play over .500 ball, and in my opinion, Walsh has given him the tools to be better than that. If we start hearing about personality problems between him and Randolph, and he does not play deserving players, I think that Walsh, or whoever is in charge by the end of the year, has to look critically at our coaching staff and who will be leading the team in the future.

great post paladin, i agree with everything you said. i've been a staunch d'antoni supporter and have given him a pass for the previous 2 years because of the roster and all that crap, but now is the time where he has to shine. no excuses this year, he has a very nice roster to work with and i'm expecting 41-45 wins and a playoff birth - if not.. it's time to start looking elsewhere.

playa2 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

playa2 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

playa2 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

playa2 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My impression of Gallo is that he very much wants to be great. I'm sure he is taking this very seriously and working on the parts of his game he was instructed to work on. Nothing he's done so far suggests anything less than that from this kid.

You would think we would hear some good news on him working out in Italy or what parts of his game he's been working on etc...

Like if he put on more weight and became more chiseled like Bill Walker.

we'll find out when he comes back what he's been working on. i thought i remember reading something a few weeks back that he was working with a noted doctor in italy doing back strengthening. he's said that he's coming back august 1 to work at the knicks training facility with the coaches. what's wilson chandler doing? what's eddy curry doing?

your veiled attempts here are see-through bro.

He's coming back Aug 1st, well at least somebody has some info, it's almost like he isn't on the team ...nobody was talking about him for this upcoming season.

um. most people who know about the team are talking about him quite a bit. come on, man.

Show me the Thread, I was looking for one.

he's been a part of almost every thread discussing next season. here's one:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=35532&page=lu

OK his name is mentioned in the thread name , but nobody talked about him from what I read.

You have good working refrigerator ot you house. Why you would talk about it?
If it will lick, broke, or making strange noises, than everybody in the house will start talking about it.

"The ace of the Knicks from this past Sunday until Saturday is the guest of honor at the celebrity basketball camp. Gallinari is working with young basketball players under the direction of coach Stefano Pillastrini. Today the 22 year old presided over a technical lesson for a group of forty boys, explaining the importance of training and answering their many questions."

The original - in Italian: http://www.romagnanoi.it/News/Sport/Cesenatico/articoli/196381/Gallinari-porta-lNba-allEurocamp.asp

I think at the end they said they are going to have an interview with him in today's paper, which isn't online yet, probably because it contains too many frightening revelations about his depraved Italian lifestyle. There are also 11 pictures showing Gallinari doing various questionable things... I may be prejudiced, but I ask anyone to look at this article and tell me, truthfully, that the Knicks have not dropped the ball again!

According to twitter, he also played some "one o one" against his brother on July 9th... My God, being a Knicks fan is like dying every day! Let's face it, we all suspected that Gallo was probably doing stuff like this, we just didn't want to admit it - now we know for sure, and our summer has become one of endless darkness.