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My God what with this trade Wilson Chandler and A Randolph stuff?
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tj23
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7/14/2010  2:01 PM
Moonangie wrote:I think Chandler should be trade bait only for a star player. I agree that it would not make sense to lose valuable assets for marginal upgrades at positon of need. Seems to me the roster now has size, speed, athleticism, and talent. We have solid role players at every position, as well as an elite 4 and up-and-coming wings (Gallo and AR).

Donnie should stand pat unless something like Mel or CP3 is involved. I would also be willing to trade Chandler for the rights to Rubio. Anything else I don't really support.


Agreed. I like chandler but you gotta deal him if we get a superstar caliber player in return.
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7/14/2010  4:23 PM
Im not fan of plying Randolph at center just yet.

I think our best lineup is

Amare 36min/Turiaf 12min -unless Mozgov is ready to contribute
Gallo 33min/Randolph 20min
Chandler 33min/Randolph 12min
Azubuike 27min /Douglas 12min /Walker 9min
Felton 36min/Douglas 12min

How does Amare feel bout playing center this yr though.

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7/14/2010  4:25 PM
Amare said something to the tune of he's fine at center for 15 minutes per game but he's not a center.

C-Turiaf(15)/Amare(15) = 18 minutes left to figure out.
F-Amare(20) = 28 minutes left to figure out.

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7/14/2010  4:37 PM
I think the point about Gallo being such a great shooter would more than make up for Chandler's lack of 3 pt range is very legit.

I think Gallo will and should be the primary outside shooter on this team, so the more I think about it, the more he fits in as a starting 2.

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7/14/2010  4:40 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Im not fan of plying Randolph at center just yet.

I think our best lineup is

Amare 36min/Turiaf 12min -unless Mozgov is ready to contribute
Gallo 33min/Randolph 20min
Chandler 33min/Randolph 12min
Azubuike 27min /Douglas 12min /Walker 9min
Felton 36min/Douglas 12min

How does Amare feel bout playing center this yr though.

Azubike is hurt dude.

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7/14/2010  4:49 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Im not fan of plying Randolph at center just yet.

I think our best lineup is

Amare 36min/Turiaf 12min -unless Mozgov is ready to contribute
Gallo 33min/Randolph 20min
Chandler 33min/Randolph 12min
Azubuike 27min /Douglas 12min /Walker 9min
Felton 36min/Douglas 12min

How does Amare feel bout playing center this yr though.

Azubike is hurt dude.

supposedly he'll be ready for training camp, no?

walker and toney and maybe fields can pick up the slack while he heals though

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7/14/2010  5:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/14/2010  5:41 PM
The things I like most about Chandler are his d and his versatility. He can play effectively at three positions. That comes in handy over the course of a long season. Trading Randolph at this point in his career makes no sense. Give him time to add to his game and enhance is work and then - either decide to keep him or get more for him in a trade.
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7/14/2010  6:49 PM
if people are saying that dolan wants to rid the team cause of chandlers weed indescretion then he should not be throwing stones ..i heard from someone who went to HS with dolan in the 70's that he was one of the biggest partiers in his school..the most popular choices of that era were weed and qualudes..why would knicks need collison if they just signed felton
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7/14/2010  7:00 PM
crzymdups wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Im not fan of plying Randolph at center just yet.

I think our best lineup is

Amare 36min/Turiaf 12min -unless Mozgov is ready to contribute
Gallo 33min/Randolph 20min
Chandler 33min/Randolph 12min
Azubuike 27min /Douglas 12min /Walker 9min
Felton 36min/Douglas 12min

How does Amare feel bout playing center this yr though.

Azubike is hurt dude.

supposedly he'll be ready for training camp, no?

walker and toney and maybe fields can pick up the slack while he heals though

During an interview in one of the Knicks summer league, Don Nelson said he didn't know when Buike would be ready.

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7/14/2010  7:01 PM
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fishmike wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Wilson Chandler is a SF not a SG. When Chandler was jacking shots he was TERRIBLE. When he was penetrating he was a BEAST.

I will reserve judgement until I see if he has improved his handler for this upcoming season. If he can make a David Lee like leap than he is a keeper.

He can play both. Clearly the #s show that. Shooting 3's isnt prereq for playing SG. I would rather have my SG penetrating and knocking down the mid range jumper at 50% then jacking 3's like a QRich type. You look at his 82games #s and he's better defensively at the SG also. A lot of guys can play both. Pierce, Joe Johnson, etc

How do you become and elite team? Field a team thats bigger, faster and more effecient then your oposition. With so many combo guards playing SG now having a guy thats 6'8, athletic enough to guard smaller players and big enough to destroy them in the paint and shoot 50% is a HUGE advantage.


Stats are nice but I watch the games. Chandler scored alot close to the basket. I wouldn't call him a mid range dynamo. Chandler is also nowhere near being half as good as Paul Pierce or Joe Johnson.

SG's who can actually shoot are still important to winning games. Chandler isn't that great shooting off the dribble either.

But he has the potential to be better, he may be considered a asset, but you can't take away from the fact that he can get much better. I would prefer to let this season be his break out season, it's a semi contract year, he's 3 years in and it's time he take it up a notch.

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7/14/2010  7:12 PM
tj23 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:I think Chandler should be trade bait only for a star player. I agree that it would not make sense to lose valuable assets for marginal upgrades at positon of need. Seems to me the roster now has size, speed, athleticism, and talent. We have solid role players at every position, as well as an elite 4 and up-and-coming wings (Gallo and AR).

Donnie should stand pat unless something like Mel or CP3 is involved. I would also be willing to trade Chandler for the rights to Rubio. Anything else I don't really support.


Agreed. I like chandler but you gotta deal him if we get a superstar caliber player in return.


Guys, I dont understand what everyone is talking about here. Chandler is a restricted free agent next year. How much bait could he possibly be. We need to keep a player like him, not just give him up. Also, no team is going to just take him this year to risk losing him the following summer if he gets a better offer that the other team cant match.

I think we all need to come back down to reality here.

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7/14/2010  9:00 PM
Knickss208 wrote:
tj23 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:I think Chandler should be trade bait only for a star player. I agree that it would not make sense to lose valuable assets for marginal upgrades at positon of need. Seems to me the roster now has size, speed, athleticism, and talent. We have solid role players at every position, as well as an elite 4 and up-and-coming wings (Gallo and AR).

Donnie should stand pat unless something like Mel or CP3 is involved. I would also be willing to trade Chandler for the rights to Rubio. Anything else I don't really support.


Agreed. I like chandler but you gotta deal him if we get a superstar caliber player in return.


Guys, I dont understand what everyone is talking about here. Chandler is a restricted free agent next year. How much bait could he possibly be. We need to keep a player like him, not just give him up. Also, no team is going to just take him this year to risk losing him the following summer if he gets a better offer that the other team cant match.

I think we all need to come back down to reality here.


i dont think its realistic but paired with a couple other players/picks/whatever i would have no problem throwing him in. Not trying to get rid of him but i figure we wont bring him back and you cant turn down an all star
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7/14/2010  9:05 PM
I couldn't afford league pass last year (getting it this year) so I only had a handful of games to go on to see if Chandler had improved from the previous season. Is he taking it to the rim more? It drove me crazy that someone with his slashing ability was so hesitant to drive.
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7/14/2010  9:11 PM
Knickss208 wrote:
tj23 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:I think Chandler should be trade bait only for a star player. I agree that it would not make sense to lose valuable assets for marginal upgrades at positon of need. Seems to me the roster now has size, speed, athleticism, and talent. We have solid role players at every position, as well as an elite 4 and up-and-coming wings (Gallo and AR).

Donnie should stand pat unless something like Mel or CP3 is involved. I would also be willing to trade Chandler for the rights to Rubio. Anything else I don't really support.


Agreed. I like chandler but you gotta deal him if we get a superstar caliber player in return.


Guys, I dont understand what everyone is talking about here. Chandler is a restricted free agent next year. How much bait could he possibly be. We need to keep a player like him, not just give him up. Also, no team is going to just take him this year to risk losing him the following summer if he gets a better offer that the other team cant match.

I think we all need to come back down to reality here.

I see it differently. While I agree his trade value shouldn't be huge, the fact that he is a RFA and he is probably worth more than his salary makes him a good trade chip (although not amazing). However, if the intent is to sign another player like Melo next year, we cannot afford to give Chandler the qualifying offer-- so we will end up losing him as an unrestricted free agent. Because of this, I would consider trading him now (while any team trading for him can get the benefit of the entire year in their system) because I think his value is higher now than it will be in February.

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7/14/2010  10:22 PM
I still don't get the fact that people are asking for a top 2 or 3 small forward in the league for chandler and change...
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7/14/2010  10:51 PM
Elite wrote:if we can get Carmelo or CP3 thats one thing...

this talk about Collison etc... your right.. pass. Our guys are good

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Here we go again! Do I have to hear If and when we get Carmello Anthony night after night for the next year?? He ain't coming! So why do we torcher ourselves?

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My God what with this trade Wilson Chandler and A Randolph stuff?

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