TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:I don't know about the value of the TMAC trade. Don Nelson is the guy we should be thanking. He time and time again proves he is clueless with talent evaluation. He did it with CWebb and I think has done it with AR. I think the stars aligned just right for us not to lose Lee and have a great package we shouldn't have gotten. Sometimes it works that way, I'm glad we finaly got a little luck. Like Johnson getting overpaid. The Knicks were going full force on that one. Again sometimes it comes down to luck.

you don't have one without the other. Nobody taking on Jefferies at this time of year. TMac allowed us to be in position for Don Nelson maneuver.

how do you figure? we had the cap space to make a non-equitable monetary trade w/o making the T-Mac deal... first we were able to sign Amare because of the T-Mac trade, now we were able to trade Lee for AR because of the T-Mac deal... i suppose any player we get from now on was all made possible by the T-Mac trade? if Melo signs here in 2011, people will be arguing that the T-Mac trade made that possible... come on.

blah blah, refer to the many other threads about the numbers. I am talking about the full Amare acquisition+GSW trade. One or the other but not both without JJ and Hill going.

The big diff from previous yrs is that we're solid up the middle. Felt and Amare is a MAJOR upgrade and will give us consistency from game to game.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:I don't know about the value of the TMAC trade. Don Nelson is the guy we should be thanking. He time and time again proves he is clueless with talent evaluation. He did it with CWebb and I think has done it with AR. I think the stars aligned just right for us not to lose Lee and have a great package we shouldn't have gotten. Sometimes it works that way, I'm glad we finaly got a little luck. Like Johnson getting overpaid. The Knicks were going full force on that one. Again sometimes it comes down to luck.

you don't have one without the other. Nobody taking on Jefferies at this time of year. TMac allowed us to be in position for Don Nelson maneuver.

how do you figure? we had the cap space to make a non-equitable monetary trade w/o making the T-Mac deal... first we were able to sign Amare because of the T-Mac trade, now we were able to trade Lee for AR because of the T-Mac deal... i suppose any player we get from now on was all made possible by the T-Mac trade? if Melo signs here in 2011, people will be arguing that the T-Mac trade made that possible... come on.

have always agreed with you tms and continue to do so..it is our belief that if we didnt make the tmac trade we'd have the same team as constituted today plus valuable assets in j hill, our own 2011 draft pick instead of a possible lower houston pick, our 2012 draft pick, and an expiring jeffries contract..and if we needed to clear cap space to sign felton we would have been able to trade hill for a future 1st rd pick...im not saying jordan hill is or is going to be a good player but u have to agree that having him is an asset and would have given donnie more flexibility baby

alau53 wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:I don't know about the value of the TMAC trade. Don Nelson is the guy we should be thanking. He time and time again proves he is clueless with talent evaluation. He did it with CWebb and I think has done it with AR. I think the stars aligned just right for us not to lose Lee and have a great package we shouldn't have gotten. Sometimes it works that way, I'm glad we finaly got a little luck. Like Johnson getting overpaid. The Knicks were going full force on that one. Again sometimes it comes down to luck.

you don't have one without the other. Nobody taking on Jefferies at this time of year. TMac allowed us to be in position for Don Nelson maneuver.

how do you figure? we had the cap space to make a non-equitable monetary trade w/o making the T-Mac deal... first we were able to sign Amare because of the T-Mac trade, now we were able to trade Lee for AR because of the T-Mac deal... i suppose any player we get from now on was all made possible by the T-Mac trade? if Melo signs here in 2011, people will be arguing that the T-Mac trade made that possible... come on.

have always agreed with you tms and continue to do so..it is our belief that if we didnt make the tmac trade we'd have the same team as constituted today plus valuable assets in j hill, our own 2011 draft pick instead of a possible lower houston pick, our 2012 draft pick, and an expiring jeffries contract..and if we needed to clear cap space to sign felton we would have been able to trade hill for a future 1st rd pick...im not saying jordan hill is or is going to be a good player but u have to agree that having him is an asset and would have given donnie more flexibility baby

i don't understand why it's so hard for people to just admit Donnie made a mistake by giving away assets for a glimmer of a chance at signing Lebron this summer... it's like they've grown so used to lambasting anyone who had anything critical to say about that highly questionable move for the past few months they just refuse to acknowledge anyone for having been justified in doubting the move from the very beginning.

anyway, the point of this thread isn't to argue the T-Mac trade for the 100000th time... it's to map out a reasonable plan for the future now that we have the cap flexibility & the young assets to finally build a real team... no more giving away assets for a 1 in a million shot at banging Adriana Lima... build up the core, develop the young talent & see what develops from there.

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:

alau53 wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:I don't know about the value of the TMAC trade. Don Nelson is the guy we should be thanking. He time and time again proves he is clueless with talent evaluation. He did it with CWebb and I think has done it with AR. I think the stars aligned just right for us not to lose Lee and have a great package we shouldn't have gotten. Sometimes it works that way, I'm glad we finaly got a little luck. Like Johnson getting overpaid. The Knicks were going full force on that one. Again sometimes it comes down to luck.

you don't have one without the other. Nobody taking on Jefferies at this time of year. TMac allowed us to be in position for Don Nelson maneuver.

how do you figure? we had the cap space to make a non-equitable monetary trade w/o making the T-Mac deal... first we were able to sign Amare because of the T-Mac trade, now we were able to trade Lee for AR because of the T-Mac deal... i suppose any player we get from now on was all made possible by the T-Mac trade? if Melo signs here in 2011, people will be arguing that the T-Mac trade made that possible... come on.

have always agreed with you tms and continue to do so..it is our belief that if we didnt make the tmac trade we'd have the same team as constituted today plus valuable assets in j hill, our own 2011 draft pick instead of a possible lower houston pick, our 2012 draft pick, and an expiring jeffries contract..and if we needed to clear cap space to sign felton we would have been able to trade hill for a future 1st rd pick...im not saying jordan hill is or is going to be a good player but u have to agree that having him is an asset and would have given donnie more flexibility baby

i don't understand why it's so hard for people to just admit Donnie made a mistake by giving away assets for a glimmer of a chance at signing Lebron this summer... it's like they've grown so used to lambasting anyone who had anything critical to say about that highly questionable move for the past few months they just refuse to acknowledge anyone for having been justified in doubting the move from the very beginning.

anyway, the point of this thread isn't to argue the T-Mac trade for the 100000th time... it's to map out a reasonable plan for the future now that we have the cap flexibility & the young assets to finally build a real team... no more giving away assets for a 1 in a million shot at banging Adriana Lima... build up the core, develop the young talent & see what develops from there.

Just cuz you don't want the shot at Lima doesn't mean it's dumb to take a shot! You don't know that maybe she has a bad break up and is real emotional thus ready to get with you on the rebound

While I was laying next to her I wouldn't be thinking about the crap I gave up or how risky it may have seemed. I'd be smilin as I smell her hair with her head on my chest.

the closest you'd get to laying next to Adriana Lima & smelling her hair is spreading out a Victoria's Secret catalog on your bed & spritzing some perfume on it... pretty much as close we came to landing Lebron this summer.

EwingsGlass wrote:You guys need to get more action.

LOL

“When you finish this, don’t go out and say a name and then for two years or one year, we’re all focused on that one name,” Walsh said. “The guys I’m bringing in here now are meant to come here and stay here. In other words, they’re the kinds of players that you want even if you did have the cap flexibility to go out and get another player, so it isn’t like everyone should be looking over their shoulders. I think the days of just basically making deals for cap space, for the most part, are over.”

I like the idea of watching this young team come together and I think the overall talent level is pretty good. We still don't have the identifiable star on the perimeter that you usually associate with title contenders, but we're more like Orlando. A team with an All Star or 2 and a bunch of good players that fit well.