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EwingsGlass
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7/14/2010  9:26 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Toney Parker is available after this year...

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7/14/2010  9:31 PM
He signed Ridnour and hoped to give Sessions to the Bobcats.

Bobcats signed Livingston and hung up the phone on the Sessions trade.

LMFAO.

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7/14/2010  9:43 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Toney Parker is available after this year...

billups can be avail in 2011 as well.

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7/14/2010  10:31 PM
Kahn got Kostas Ko*)*& what ever his name is, 2 first round and a trade exemption for a player that had a big contract and likley won't be a factor in a few years when his "plan" comes together.

Thats not really bad. Al Jefferson is damaged goods. If he pans out, its good for "win now" utah, but for "win one day" Timberwolves its not the player they need.

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7/14/2010  10:41 PM
Nalod wrote:Kahn got Kostas Ko*)*& what ever his name is, 2 first round and a trade exemption for a player that had a big contract and likley won't be a factor in a few years when his "plan" comes together.

Thats not really bad. Al Jefferson is damaged goods. If he pans out, its good for "win now" utah, but for "win one day" Timberwolves its not the player they need.

I guess. Was the KG trade worth it?

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7/14/2010  10:48 PM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Kahn got Kostas Ko*)*& what ever his name is, 2 first round and a trade exemption for a player that had a big contract and likley won't be a factor in a few years when his "plan" comes together.

Thats not really bad. Al Jefferson is damaged goods. If he pans out, its good for "win now" utah, but for "win one day" Timberwolves its not the player they need.

I guess. Was the KG trade worth it?

Im not one to do a forensic recap of that trade and all the little residue trades that came before and after but KG was "all alone" and not using him well. Al Jeff was a nice player but he got hurt and the Tibah Wolfies are not the think tank of franchises so its hard to say.

was the trade worth it? You know, Kahn is stacking assets and is panning for gold. So far he is not getting it, but Im really thinking Glen Taylor is behind it cuz they are doing the same silly crap they did when McHale was in the seat.

Just my thoughts on them.

I think while grizz got hosed in Pau trade, Two years later they are much better.

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7/15/2010  11:40 AM
man, this dude keeps shoving his foot further down his own throat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Chris-Webber-does-not-want-to-be-compared;_ylt=Apktl4f_J3dTH_AVsPB.kqvYrYZ4?urn=nba,256186

Video: Chris Webber does not want to be compared to Darko

Minnesota GM David Kahn guested at the play-by-play table for a summer league game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and Sacramento Kings yesterday, sitting between Matt Winer and Chris Webber(notes), and the interplay is well worth a listen.

The entire interview had Kahn in a corner, with little pressing, backed into explaining his recent work as Timberwolves boss. If you're unfamiliar with Kahn's work, understand that a good mate of mine, completely unsolicited, sent me a text yesterday using words I couldn't hope to replicate in polite company, whilst wondering out loud if the Wolves GM might be eligible for a certain type of bus pass. Also, he signed Darko Milicic(notes) to a four-year, $20 million deal earlier this month.

If that's not enough, you could listen to the interview. One that starts with Kahn pointing out that the Wolves have improved, "even though there was no improvement in terms of wins or losses."

Or even in terms of personnel, coaching staff, or front office employees.

Kahn goes on to describe Darko Milicic as "like a manna from heaven," which might be the worst bastardization of a Biblically-inspired sports description I've ever heard, before pointing out that he "hasn't seen a big man pass like him," which drew some polite chuckles from C-Webb.

And, I have to say, Chris was quite professional in refusing to add, "I've seen a big man pass like him - Chris Mihm(notes)."

Undeterred, Kahn went on to say that Darko "passes like Vlade" "Like Vlade Divac?" Webber asked, just to make sure Kahn wasn't referring to the more similarly styled Vladimir Stepania.

(By the way, this morning, Hoopdata.com's Tom Haberstroh was kind enough to point out the, um, disparities in the assist percentage of the players being bandied about by Kahn.)

Backing further, Kahn then pointed out the high end of the expectations for Milicic. The Timberwolves, he explained, "expect [Darko] to have a decent little season."

Put that in your program.

If it's not enough, Kahn feels a need to punctuate a bit of on-air silence by asking Webber what year he "kind of felt like you were in your own," as if Webber's 17.5-point, 9.1-rebound, 3.6-assist, 1.2-steal, 2.2-block rookie year, at age 20 (when Darko averaged 4.8 points, and 2.7 rebounds) wasn't enough.

That was about it for C-Webb: "We're not talking," he warned, "about me and Darko in the same sentence."

Reeling, on-air, Kahn then set to backing up his decision by pointing out just how well Darko picked up Minnesota's offense.

"It took Darko two days to pick up," he pointed out, "what it took others two months to pick up."

Considering that the Timberwolves went 1-22 to end the season; what, exactly, were these guys picking up?

Listen, signing Darko Milicic isn't the end of the world. Given starters minutes last season, he managed just under 12 points, two blocks, and eight rebounds. And for a salary that is less than the league's average, this isn't completely and utterly terrible. It's not as if he's the free agent equivalent of spending three lottery picks on Jonny Flynn(notes), an uninterested Ricky Rubio(notes), and Wesley Johnson(notes).

But just end it, already. Stop talking. Stop showing up at league events like the Finals or summer league, stopping ripping on the shape of potential lottery picks, and stop trying to talk us into us thinking that you know what you're doing. Because your team was the worst in the NBA last year (I don't give a whit about New Jersey's inferior record), and you just traded your best player for a trade exception. And then you're going to try and compare Chris Webber's injury-plagued early career to Darko Milicic's terrible-plagued early career?

Just stop, David Kahn. If we're all morons for what we think are terrible moves, then we're all on record. So go ahead and let that record speak for itself.

Until then, to quote Webber's hilarious end to the interview, "good luck."

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7/15/2010  12:06 PM
wow, that interview was amazing. good for chris webber to shove that darko comparison back down kahn's throat.. what a joke.
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7/15/2010  12:35 PM
Like manna from heaven. unbelievable. he also said one reason the t'wolves "improved" last year was the team now has breakfast and lunch together. this guy is such a chump its incredible. why won't he just throw walsh a bone and give the knicks rubio.
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7/15/2010  12:54 PM
this guy is just awful.. it's shocking that he still has a job
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7/15/2010  2:23 PM
Funny, Kahn is awful for darko, but MDA was awful for not playing him?

Kahn is a trip and somehow Darko who I thought was just riding the pine until he could go to Europe turned it up and did play great. 4 year deal is generous to say the least.

I don't like blasting GM's until they are fired. Why? Well in time they have been known to let things go that present new opportunities down the road.

THey guy is obviosly not succeeding but has a plan. Might be that of a mad man, but a plan never-the-less. The might be delusional regarding Darko, but Darko is not going to take down a franshcise. AL Jeffersons countract could keep you down.

IM tired of blasting Gm's. Just takes one transaction to turn a franchise around. POstsers were lamenting it was "all in on lebron or bust" and two weeks later we have reformulated the franchise to much delight.

Grizz were looking stupid trading Pau and taking on Zdumb but that franchise is in much better shape.

Somtimes its not obvious to fans what the plan is. Somtimes the plan don't work.

But IM not going to call them out until failure is documented.

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7/15/2010  3:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2010  3:28 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

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7/15/2010  3:29 PM
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

PGs?

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7/15/2010  4:10 PM
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

PGs?

lol. minneapolis is filled with pg's

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7/15/2010  4:12 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

PGs?

lol. minneapolis is filled with pg's

you wanna know what the dumbest part is?

the triangle offense doesn't rely upon the need for even a hint of PG play.

He hires a coach to bring in a system. And then surround that coach with exactly the wrong type of players.

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7/15/2010  4:18 PM
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

You're not making sense. he draft Wesley Johnson and traded for Beasley. He could have gotten Luke Babbit if he wanted too.

Minnesota is just being cheap now. They need a PG with a jumper. Sessions has no jumper and Flynn's is shaky right now.

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7/15/2010  4:18 PM
martin wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
martin wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

PGs?

lol. minneapolis is filled with pg's

you wanna know what the dumbest part is?

the triangle offense doesn't rely upon the need for even a hint of PG play.

He hires a coach to bring in a system. And then surround that coach with exactly the wrong type of players.

yeah it makes no sense. atleast they finally get a pick right in wes johnson... babysteps i guess.

kahn must think minneapolis is home to many pg fans if he's following in donnie's community picks

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7/15/2010  5:49 PM
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

Rubio? Bipolar Beas?

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7/15/2010  8:06 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

Rubio? Bipolar Beas?

Flynn?

Ellington?

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7/15/2010  8:43 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Kahn is a mess. I also read where he is still saying Rubio is not available in a trade. How do you trade a big as good as Jefferson for picks and an exception? Who is signing in Minny? The only guys that play there were traded there or on their rookie contracts.

Kahn is not shy in proving to his fans that he believes in stocking up the team with players who appeals and resembles his "COMMUNITY".

You're not making sense. he draft Wesley Johnson and traded for Beasley. He could have gotten Luke Babbit if he wanted too.

Minnesota is just being cheap now. They need a PG with a jumper. Sessions has no jumper and Flynn's is shaky right now.

Obviously I'm not talking about pg's. Darko's signing sealed the deal. They don't need a pg who plays position traditional.

What they need is a combo guard who can handle the ball and create his own shot.

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