And even that is fine, not everyone has the full package. But if you don't, then cut the crap with The King, Chosen, Witness, Greatest, etc., and don't have a 1 hour telecast to announce you're the greatest second fiddle of all time. There's no such thing as a King of second fiddles.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Mray20 wrote:Haslem is just as stupid as he looks , the guy is a double double foward and supposedly he is gonna take close to the minumum he could have done much better than that looks at what Drew Gooden got. This is appalling I Hate the Heat now more than ever even more than I did in 1997 .

The min to play for the Heat? If so, I give him respect. That's a guy who actually does want only to win. It's different from Lebron taking *only* $110 mil to win.

Yup.

Of course maybe LeBron and Wade are giving him a little extra under the table? (no double entendre comments, please)

bishop wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:Has anyone ever read the Aesop fable "Sour Grapes"?

Where was all this "queen," "bitch" and "diva" chatter last month?

The Queen talk just came into play because he doesn't want to lead the team or "have the pressure to score 30 points a game." The Diva stuff has always been there and was exemplified by the way he left the court following the Magic series. Calling him a "bitch" is probably uncalled for.

Agree.

Lost a lot of respect, or at least started to look at him differently after the Orlando walkout.

I also admit that I liked when Noah took him on in the game where LeBron was dancing around like a fool while the Cavs were beating the Bulls. That type of **** is something I will not miss seeing in the Garden.

Paladin55 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Funny but if Lebron came to play in NY he would be on a higher plain with NY fans than any NY sport figure in modern times. Because he chose another city he is a btch and a fraud. Maybe the *decision* show wasnt the best idea--although it did grab big ratings--but all of this negative chatter sounds like a bunch of bitter fans who didnt get their way. He did what he did--what he was free to do. Too bad--he was in a no win situation if you stand back and look at it.

The problem isn't that he left Cleveland to play with Wade in Miami. The problem is he knew all along where he was going to go. He played everyone for a fool acting like he didn't know where he was going. Having fake reports populate all over the place to give every team hope to make it seem like he really was trying to decide where he wanted to go. He got teams like the Bulls trading away Hinrich and there 17th pick just for cap space. He should have been open with it and acted quickly allowing teams to move on an prepare.

He want to team up with Wade and win championships that fine, but don't try and play everyone for a fool as well.

Never thought to look at it that way. Teams were acting in good faith, competing against other teams and doing things they might not have done. If Donnie knows that James is not coming, and he, Wade, and Bosh have planned this thing out, does he make some of the trades he makes? Would he have secured the cap space to take on 2 max contracts if he knew the only FAs we could choose from were Johnson, Amare, and Boozer, or would he have kept Hill, and the 2012 pick and tried to deal Jeffries during this FA period?

Im not even going to look at anything that happend during the season. As I can't expect Lebron to say he is going to Miami during the season while Cavs are competeing. But after the finals he should have had reports come out stating how he was interested in joining Wade in Miami and then he should have acted quickly on it. This way by the time the draft comes around teams could already be prepared to move on and build there teams for the future.