TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:YOU WERE WRONG SO PLEASE PIPE DOWN!!!!

- a Zach Randolph & Eddy Curry frontcourt was going to lead us to the promised land according to you
- our team "turned the corner" a couple years ago according to you
- Jared Fishlips was going to be the glue for us last season according to you
- a realistic plan B was for the Knicks to trade for CP3 this summer according to you
- Sergio Rodriguez was Nash Lite according to you

maybe you should be the one to pipe down & not be calling other people fools for having an opposing opinion? just a thought.

None of this lame crap you're trying to bring up has anything to do with the point of this thread.

I've been right about players we have but you won't bring that up. So i've been wrong on season predictions. Big deal. It's really a lame attempt on your part to try and switch the convo to talking about me. You and the others here were wrong and just need to stop pushing this idea that somehow DW really messed up doing the T-Mac deal.

regarding your lame claims against me tho:

1. What exactly is the "promised land" and when did I ever say that about those 2 guys? If you're going to accuse me of saying something, at least quote me accurately and don't paraphrase some vague comment to try and make some point. I NEVER said anything about going to the promised land in reference to Zach n Eddy. Zach actually played well, only Curry sulked and didn't hold up his end.

2. What do you mean by "turned the Corner"? Unless you pull a specific quote and not use it taken out of context I don't see what your point is. I don't even know at what point in the season, you're claiming I said this. My only guess is that it happened when the team was looking good and winning games. Hughes and Duhon's failure to keep playing at the same good level of ball is the main reason the team stopped winning.

3. Isiah was the guy that said Jared would be the glue. In the end my predictions were still modest even if he was successful. Also Jared WAS THE GLUE to this teams defense. What little D the team played was successful when he was in there.

4. I never said that CP3 was a lock to happen. I said that we had the chance to see that kind of deal happen so long as NO was over the cap and strapped for cash. They solved their cap issues another way, but that doesn't mean we won't eventually see a deal made for CP3 or Melo.

5. Again without clarifying how I meant the statement, you can make it sound like I was crazy. In that thread I fully explained that I was talking about his skills. Sergio did indeed have the basic skills to do things that Nash can do. He had great speed pushing the ball up court, could make all the passes and get to the hoop. He just didn't have the mental part of the game to put it all together. I explained that prospects always are likened to pros that are clearly better, but that the kid reminds one of. It's not the same as saying that the kid will definitely pan out or put it all together. I said that I liked his SKILLS. That's not the same as saying he's gonna be Nash.

Don't let me start to dig around to find every time you've stuck your neck out and were wrong about something. In this case i'm pointing out that we need to stop going over this point some of you have been trying to make, cuz it's been shown to be that you were wrong. GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!

Ira wrote:While we lost draft picks, we ended up with a very young talented roster. We just got there in a different way.

Which is fine by me as we always screw up with our draft picks ala Weis, Walter McCarthy, Donte Jones, John Wallace etc etc.

fishmike wrote:

Juice wrote:If he would have just held serve on the T-Mac trade I'd give a high Grade with Flying Colors. He never should have made that trade as we now know Free Agency was planned/in the works a long time ago. $28mil plus Jordan Hill/2011/2012 picks was more than enough flexibility. He's still a C grade GM IMO with potential for a C+ depending on what he does with his next couple of moves.

you dont get Felton + Amare without that deal. We upgraded anyway. How can you knock that trade now? We got better players than JJ and Hill, and without that cap space we cant take those players back for Lee and we dont get Felton. We would have Amare, JJ and Hill. Sorry.. but I rather have Felton, AR, Azu and Turiaf over Hill, JJ and a draft pick thats top 5 protected.

Good trade then, good trade now. I have no idea why guys are holding to that. We are a better team now because of that trade. MUCH better.

Word. Some peeps just aren't looking at the details clearly. A- for Donnie. Our team is setup sweetly now, and will hopefully finish the rebuild next summer.

fishmike wrote:

Juice wrote:If he would have just held serve on the T-Mac trade I'd give a high Grade with Flying Colors. He never should have made that trade as we now know Free Agency was planned/in the works a long time ago. $28mil plus Jordan Hill/2011/2012 picks was more than enough flexibility. He's still a C grade GM IMO with potential for a C+ depending on what he does with his next couple of moves.

you dont get Felton + Amare without that deal. We upgraded anyway. How can you knock that trade now? We got better players than JJ and Hill, and without that cap space we cant take those players back for Lee and we dont get Felton. We would have Amare, JJ and Hill. Sorry.. but I rather have Felton, AR, Azu and Turiaf over Hill, JJ and a draft pick thats top 5 protected.

Good trade then, good trade now. I have no idea why guys are holding to that. We are a better team now because of that trade. MUCH better.

Sure we could have because Nate/Effries was on the table for Kenny Thomas.

NUFF CED!

Amare, Felton, ARandolph, Azubuike, Turiaf + continued cap flexibility in 2011 is a good summer.

People were worried they'd blow all their cap room on Joe Johnson - they didn't.

People are worried about a pick swap with the Rockets next year - right now we are at worst even with the Rockets, possibly better. The Rockets never were able to use all those assets to get Chris Bosh, were they? I remember some being worried about that, too.

I hope Donnie stays on a few more years and puts a good successor in place.

misterearl wrote:nixluva - don't ever be distracted or discouraged by posters like TMS who insist on making your fandom a personal matter. For them, this is some third-grade competition to prove their superior knowledge instead of simply having fun with a game

maybe you should spend less time worrying about what my intentions are & worry more about improving the content of your own posts.

You're both as right as rain. No Jordan Hill trade? We don't even have Amare because you couldn't sell him on coming here by himself.

Good posts, guys, I got nothing else to say other than to apologize for my drunken rampage a day ago.