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Dolan ditched Mike D and opted for Isiah to travel to Ohio instead.
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fishmike
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7/9/2010  2:17 PM
Also every guy on the roster is part of the plan for this team, with the exception of Eddy. Coach doesnt need to manage 75% of a roster that isnt going to be here in a year.
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7/9/2010  2:18 PM
fishmike wrote:Also every guy on the roster is part of the plan for this team, with the exception of Eddy. Coach doesnt need to manage 75% of a roster that isnt going to be here in a year.

Unfortunatley that was who he chose to play over his rookies last year.
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7/9/2010  2:25 PM
VDesai wrote:ITs absolutely pathetic. How can you send a fired employee to work on the biggest recruitment that you'll ever have? Its a joke. If I was on Lebron's team and had Isiah coming to visit I would laugh him out of the room.

Absolutely pathetic.

Very low class move that reeks of desperation. If Dolan was trying to look like an even bigger idiot he just succeeded.

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7/9/2010  2:31 PM
It didn't matter who they sent. The deal was made in China long before FA started. These clowns were just wasting teams time and effort. While the teams could have been going after the real FAs that were out there these azz clown were yucking up the FA process. I have no beef with these guys teaming up thats fine but the fact that they wasted everyone's time and effort is what bugs me the most. The Knicks could have been talking to Gay and Amare for all anyone knows but every thing took a back seat to these clowns.
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7/9/2010  2:36 PM
i agree with cosmic - this is not a good sign. i fear, as isola joked, that isiah could be re-hired at some point.

dolan is a sap. he doesn't realize that he's probably the main reason the knicks were never truly in contention.

dolan needs to let donnie run things and pick his successor. donnie has done a great job (other than the 09 draft).

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7/9/2010  2:41 PM
fishmike wrote:Also every guy on the roster is part of the plan for this team, with the exception of Eddy. Coach doesnt need to manage 75% of a roster that isnt going to be here in a year.

Really? There seems to still be a lot of cap fodder/Melo holds here, as well as all the talk of Melo and Parker and Chandler and Curry for this or that.

I hope MDA can take a much better approach to these guys, the young ones that have something to prove, and get them to buying into that this is their opportunity.

Otherwise, its going to get ugly fast.

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7/9/2010  2:44 PM
franco12 wrote:
VDesai wrote:ITs absolutely pathetic. How can you send a fired employee to work on the biggest recruitment that you'll ever have? Its a joke. If I was on Lebron's team and had Isiah coming to visit I would laugh him out of the room.

Absolutely pathetic.

Didn't matter- Lebron never gave us any consideration.

I actually applaud Dolan for trying this. He did what he could. No stone unturned.


It was a Fait accompli, people. LeBron's last attempt before going to the dark side was to attempt to get the Bosh S&T accomplished, but either Toronto or Bosh (any rumors?) turned down the deal, so Bosh was headed for Miami with his master, D. Wade.

When I look at it now, it looks like James was never going to come here. Either he was going to stay with the Cavs along with his new best friend Bosh, and satisfy those in his posse who wanted him to stay in Ohio, or he was going to take the easy way out and go running to Wade and Pat the Rat.

I really don't think we were in the mix when it became apparent that the only way to stay and win in Cleveland was to get Bosh, and if that could not happen, the only other way for him to win, and win early, was Miami.

Nothing that Dolan, Walsh, MDA, or Isiah said at that point would have made any difference, and people are looking for excuses that make no sense because they are concerned with finding a scapegoat.

I don't think we were players after Wade and Bosh joined forces and LeBron's attempt to get Bosh (Was it real, or staged so he could same a bit of face?)did not go down.

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7/9/2010  3:30 PM
Not trying to hate here, I've basically supported Donnie and MDA. But looking backwards to Isiah is evidence of a tattered, disjointed state of affairs. I don't know what the message is to FAs, but the message to me is of a weak, reeling, mismanaged franchise.

We're not talking about a NY hero, like Clyde or Ewing here. We're talking about needed the help of a person who's WORST years were as a Knick! If we can't do better than that then we can't do very well at all.

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7/9/2010  3:34 PM
Cosmic wrote:Was reading the daily news at a bar I just had lunch with.

Dolan apparently told Mike D NOT to travel to Ohio and instead to go to Vegas.
Dolan wanted Isiah called up to go to Ohio. Reasoning was Dolan thinks Walsh/Mike failed already and wanted to see if Isiah could be convincing.
Isiah then flew to Ohio to meet with one of James' advisors.

A couple of league execs said they were flabberghasted when this happened saying "Did Dolan really think that would work?"
A couple said they couldn't believe Isiah, who they thought was fired, was still a part of this organization.


...I smell a rift if this is indeed true.


Just passing on what I _READ_ today in the paper itself. The paper was infected with no less than a dozen LBJ articles.


No, I think people are reading too much into it. If you read the articles that mention it, basically no one from Lebron's camp, including his agent would answer any of the Knicks calls (or plea's!) leading up to yesterday- as the ESPN show came nearer and all the tales of Chicago started leaking out, the Knicks became desperate, hoping to somehow make him change his mind, but being the classy folk they are, Lebrons team still wouldn't give them the courtesy of answering them. In the end all they had was that IT was friends with one of Lebron's team, so Dolan in a last ditch effort sent him knowing the close friend wouldn't ignore IT- he couldn't of sent D'Antoni because they would have refused to see him. I think from what D'Antoni said when on route to Vegas, he was just p****ed off at the merry go round and the way they were being treated and just decided screw it, he has a job to do and wasn't going to induldge Lebron ego trip any more.

So in short I don't think there's a rift, and IT certainly won't be coming back. I don't see how Dolan can be angry with Donnie over this, and I think everyones anger is directed towards Lebron, Wade and Bosh- everyone got screwed over by those 3 prima donna's- fair enough if they want to team up in Miami but the circus and the lies and the acting and disrespect towards the fans and the teams is what's turned me against them for the rest of their careers. Anyways, it's time to move on and this is my last post in which I mention those 3 jokers other than when we are about to play against them. It's time to focus on building our new team!

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7/9/2010  3:42 PM
Maybe it says a lot when a HOF like Isiah, who got fired goes and vouches for an exmployer.

Most likely Lebrons buddies want to go to the beach.

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7/9/2010  3:50 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Was reading the daily news at a bar I just had lunch with.

Dolan apparently told Mike D NOT to travel to Ohio and instead to go to Vegas.
Dolan wanted Isiah called up to go to Ohio. Reasoning was Dolan thinks Walsh/Mike failed already and wanted to see if Isiah could be convincing.
Isiah then flew to Ohio to meet with one of James' advisors.

A couple of league execs said they were flabberghasted when this happened saying "Did Dolan really think that would work?"
A couple said they couldn't believe Isiah, who they thought was fired, was still a part of this organization.


...I smell a rift if this is indeed true.


Just passing on what I _READ_ today in the paper itself. The paper was infected with no less than a dozen LBJ articles.


No, I think people are reading too much into it. If you read the articles that mention it, basically no one from Lebron's camp, including his agent would answer any of the Knicks calls (or plea's!) leading up to yesterday- as the ESPN show came nearer and all the tales of Chicago started leaking out, the Knicks became desperate, hoping to somehow make him change his mind, but being the classy folk they are, Lebrons team still wouldn't give them the courtesy of answering them.


If that's the case, you should realize you've been dumped and move on. Sending one more person (especially Isiah) to beg for you is pathetic
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7/9/2010  3:53 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Was reading the daily news at a bar I just had lunch with.

Dolan apparently told Mike D NOT to travel to Ohio and instead to go to Vegas.
Dolan wanted Isiah called up to go to Ohio. Reasoning was Dolan thinks Walsh/Mike failed already and wanted to see if Isiah could be convincing.
Isiah then flew to Ohio to meet with one of James' advisors.

A couple of league execs said they were flabberghasted when this happened saying "Did Dolan really think that would work?"
A couple said they couldn't believe Isiah, who they thought was fired, was still a part of this organization.


...I smell a rift if this is indeed true.


Just passing on what I _READ_ today in the paper itself. The paper was infected with no less than a dozen LBJ articles.


No, I think people are reading too much into it. If you read the articles that mention it, basically no one from Lebron's camp, including his agent would answer any of the Knicks calls (or plea's!) leading up to yesterday- as the ESPN show came nearer and all the tales of Chicago started leaking out, the Knicks became desperate, hoping to somehow make him change his mind, but being the classy folk they are, Lebrons team still wouldn't give them the courtesy of answering them.


If that's the case, you should realize you've been dumped and move on. Sending one more person (especially Isiah) to beg for you is pathetic


at the time we were in it and they sent out false signs.

It was a stupid attempt, but harmless in the end.

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7/9/2010  4:07 PM
Nalod wrote:Maybe it says a lot when a HOF like Isiah, who got fired goes and vouches for an exmployer.

You could say that if the HOFer was Ewing, but our real heros are rebuffed by this owner.

This doesn't say that because Isiah is still on the payroll, in spite of being in the Knicks Hall Of Shame.

Such a twist of fate.

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7/9/2010  4:09 PM
They are talking about this on ESPN Radio right now...
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7/9/2010  4:25 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:They are talking about this on ESPN Radio right now...

recap sir? if you can...

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7/9/2010  4:33 PM
I'm not sure what the name of this host is -- Mike? -- but he basically went on a rant on how embarrassing and undermining to Donnie & that Dolan brought in a disgrace like Isiah to do this, despite any respect he might still get from players.

To him, it shows that the coach of Florida International still has the head & heart of the owner of the Knicks and it shows that this franchise still doesn't have its house in order. Isola was on and co-signed how bringing in Isiah was a very puzzling move.

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7/9/2010  4:36 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:I'm not sure what the name of this host is -- Mike? -- but he basically went on a rant on how embarrassing and undermining to Donnie & that Dolan brought in a disgrace like Isiah to do this, despite any respect he might still get from players.

To him, it shows that the coach of Florida International still has the head & heart of the owner of the Knicks and it shows that this franchise still doesn't have its house in order. Isola was on and co-signed how bringing in Isiah was a very puzzling move.

thanks...

one day the knicks luck will change and they will have to try much harder for stuff to say how it "looks bad". i was hoping it was gonna start thurs. now this "issue". we shall see where this goes.

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7/9/2010  4:37 PM
Oh... ha, it's Michael Kay I'm finally realizing.
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7/9/2010  4:40 PM
I wonder if Steph went too? And hopefully Eddy Chubby put in a recruiting call.
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7/9/2010  4:41 PM
Wasn't Mike D'Antoni supposed to be the guy to relate to and draw players in. Two years of nightmare walking coaching the team and the guy can't even get a call back from his boy on the olympic team.
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Dolan ditched Mike D and opted for Isiah to travel to Ohio instead.

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