BlueSeats wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I think Amare will be solid for the year 1-3 and after that he will be albatross status.

Yes. Very worthwhile IF it lands us Wade (wont happen), Melo or Lebron; otherwise, it's Allan Houston, bid against ourselves, albatross all over again.

Not saying it's not worth the risk in this high-stakes gamble for something bigger, but in and of itself, I'd have never done it.

Had to try, no?

Not trying would have been foolish.

All we would have had was a chance to bash Jordan Hill for being the scrub he is....and then mulling over which hack to pick with the 8th or 9th picks in both 2011 and 2012.

Well, 100% of the time I'll pick what we did here: Put ourselves in position to land two max players.

We've done that, and now we're half way there.

Can't quite figure out if there's anything to be unhappy about all of this.

Sounds like you are agreeing with me while trying to sound like you disagree. Is this the stage before you pull out the straw men to attack?

What are you talking about other than talking to hear yourself talk?

Give it a rest....

BlueSeats wrote:All good. Good seeing you too man. This is fun stuff.

good to hear.. yeah this is very exciting. nice to have a legit all-nba player on our team again.

TMS wrote:any one who thinks we couldn't have signed Amare without making that T-Mac trade is delusional... we offered him a max contract & he took the offer... that could have been accomplished without having to give up any assets last year... the point of THAT trade was to land Lebron James geniuses... but by all means keep on dishing out the same ol' bullsheit about Jordan Hill being crap & whatever else if that makes some of you feel more manly.

Wasn't the purpose ofr the Tmac trade to clear cap sapce so we could sign 2 max guys ?

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:any one who thinks we couldn't have signed Amare without making that T-Mac trade is delusional... we offered him a max contract & he took the offer... that could have been accomplished without having to give up any assets last year... the point of THAT trade was to land Lebron James geniuses... but by all means keep on dishing out the same ol' bullsheit about Jordan Hill being crap & whatever else if that makes some of you feel more manly.

Wasn't the purpose ofr the Tmac trade to clear cap sapce so we could sign 2 max guys ?

yes... that's my point... some fools think that by this Amare signing it vindicates Donnie Walsh's plan... this is only half the plan... if we don't land Lebron or Wade, that T-Mac trade was a waste of assets, pure & simple... we had the cap space to offer Amare a max contract without making that trade.

Of course. Either opinion calling victory at this point is premature.

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:any one who thinks we couldn't have signed Amare without making that T-Mac trade is delusional... we offered him a max contract & he took the offer... that could have been accomplished without having to give up any assets last year... the point of THAT trade was to land Lebron James geniuses... but by all means keep on dishing out the same ol' bullsheit about Jordan Hill being crap & whatever else if that makes some of you feel more manly.

Wasn't the purpose ofr the Tmac trade to clear cap sapce so we could sign 2 max guys ?

yes... that's my point... some fools think that by this Amare signing it vindicates Donnie Walsh's plan... this is only half the plan... if we don't land Lebron or Wade, that T-Mac trade was a waste of assets, pure & simple... we had the cap space to offer Amare a max contract without making that trade.

Of course. Either opinion calling victory at this point is premature.

it's not about claiming victory in the "I Told You So" wars for me, all i want is for that trade not to end up being a monumental waste of assets... i would like nothing more than for Donnie's plan to work as he planned it... we'll find out in the next few days.

TMS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:any one who thinks we couldn't have signed Amare without making that T-Mac trade is delusional... we offered him a max contract & he took the offer... that could have been accomplished without having to give up any assets last year... the point of THAT trade was to land Lebron James geniuses... but by all means keep on dishing out the same ol' bullsheit about Jordan Hill being crap & whatever else if that makes some of you feel more manly.

Well, to be fair, there's no guarantee that Amare signs if we don't have enough cap room for a chance at LeBron/Wade/Carmelo/etc...

what's Melo have to do with this? what Amare knows about Lebron or Wade's intentions is anyone's guess, but the point if if neither of those 2 sign here, what was the point of the T-Mac trade?

Well, in theory we could use the cap space in a lopsided trade for Melo. E.g.: Gallo + Chandler for Carmelo. Just saying.

I agree with you about the point of the trade. I was just saying that if we don't have two max, maybe Amare isn't as quick to sign here. But, who knows?

BasketballJones wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:TMS, I'm playing catch up with you guys. Is your point that if this doesn't land us Wade, Melo or LBJ it was foolsh, or do you leave room that some things are worth trying even if they don't work out as we'd like?

TMS didn't like the TMAC trade because they traded away his favorite player of all time - Jordan Hill.

To be fair, Jordan Hill won an NBA award last season. He was awarded "greatest player... ever".

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:any one who thinks we couldn't have signed Amare without making that T-Mac trade is delusional... we offered him a max contract & he took the offer... that could have been accomplished without having to give up any assets last year... the point of THAT trade was to land Lebron James geniuses... but by all means keep on dishing out the same ol' bullsheit about Jordan Hill being crap & whatever else if that makes some of you feel more manly.

Well, to be fair, there's no guarantee that Amare signs if we don't have enough cap room for a chance at LeBron/Wade/Carmelo/etc...

what's Melo have to do with this? what Amare knows about Lebron or Wade's intentions is anyone's guess, but the point if if neither of those 2 sign here, what was the point of the T-Mac trade?

Well, in theory we could use the cap space in a lopsided trade for Melo. E.g.: Gallo + Chandler for Carmelo. Just saying.

I agree with you about the point of the trade. I was just saying that if we don't have two max, maybe Amare isn't as quick to sign here. But, who knows?

get real bro... DEN's not giving Melo to us in any trade for Gallo & Chandler... that's not even worth debating.