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misterearl
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7/5/2010  3:33 PM
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Vdesai - it is a stone cold defacto that championship teams must play solid defense, Of course, the protoypical seven footer in the mold of Kareem is rare but not the least bit less essential to competing for a ring. The Lakers frontline goes 7". 6"11 and can bring Odom at 6"10 off the bench

Orlando at 6"11, 6"10 and 6'9 is no defacto picnic either

Lee was pressed into duty at center out of necessity. There is no need to continue to play him out of position or force (fingers crossed) Amare to the middle where his microfractured knees would bang against bigger men

It's time to move forward, get a legit center that goes at least 6"11 and let go of the past

and that's factorial

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misterearl
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7/5/2010  3:41 PM
Briggs - the Atlanta Hawks won a bunch of games and got dropped like second period French in the playoffs

the objective is to win a championship

one more time with feeling....

David Lee is not a center

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7/5/2010  3:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  3:49 PM
misterearl wrote:Briggs - the Atlanta Hawks won a bunch of games and got dropped like second period French in the playoffs

the objective is to win a championship

one more time with feeling....

David Lee is not a center


How tall was Dave Cowens?

didnt the Cs win a championship with Silas at 6-7 PF and Cowens 6-9?

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7/5/2010  4:05 PM
you dont bring Lee back and put him next to Amare because your trying to win a title next year. You do it because its the next move and makes the most sense.

You bring back a guy who has value, is young, gets better every year and plays team ball. Lee doesnt need a ton of shots and offensively Lee and Amare could fit well together.

You have no help defense, but Amare is a very good man to man defender, so he can guard the best post player. You put Lee on the opposing center because he's the better defesive rounder.

An Amare/Lee/Gallo front court is good, will make us MUCH better than last year and keeps our equity.

You have a team with a ton of size, speed, skill, BBIQ and rebounding as well.

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7/5/2010  4:06 PM
I keep flip flopping on this but I think I'm with you Briggs... two All-Star big men isn't exactly a **** offseason
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7/5/2010  4:17 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I keep flip flopping on this but I think I'm with you Briggs... two All-Star big men isn't exactly a **** offseason

thats it... you have Gallo/Amare/Lee. 3 guys with great size and skills that compliment each other. Sign Mike Miller and you can play Douglas off the ball more at PG

Mike Miller/Douglas = 10x better than anything we had last year
Amare/Lee = 10x better than Harrington/Lee from last year

Chandler can sub for anyone 2-5 off the bench. He can be give you 30+ minutes off the bench

Thats a good team, with good value players that all fit together. Earl Barron can give you some size off the bench

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7/5/2010  4:37 PM
some of y'all need to stop flip flopping so much on this issue with our frontcourt... one second you're saying we need a legitimate 7 foot C to compete in the NBA & the next you're bustin' a nut over this ridiculous idea that a Lee/Amare frontcourt is our best course of action... the only thing a Lee/Amare frontcourt guarantees us is that we'll have the worst defensive frontcourt in the NBA... but hey, who cares about frontcourt defense?
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7/5/2010  4:38 PM
If LeBron and Wade are out of the picture, Amare and Lee would work together in our offense.
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7/5/2010  4:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  4:43 PM
I think several of us (I know I've put out a couple of threads in the past during Amare's hot 2nd half) have been consistent about this for awhile now.

If we finalize with Amare and strike out on the other big FAs (e.g. LeBron, Wade) then why not bring Lee back?

Offensively, Lee+Amare would be a nightmare to guard. You could literally run pick and rolls all day long to each side of the basket.

Also, keep in mind Lee's cap hold is around 10.5 million. You can use the remaining $7 million on someone like Felton or Miller. Bringing Lee back gives you the best bang for your buck.

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7/5/2010  4:47 PM
s3231 wrote:If we finalize with Amare and strike out on the other big FAs (e.g. LeBron, Wade) then why not bring Lee back?

if you're a fan of the idea of giving up more points than we'll be scoring, then it's a great idea.

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7/5/2010  4:48 PM
What if we S&T Lee for Amare? Would we then be able to give Amare a 6th year but a little bit less per annum (thus giving us more space to add a 3rd FA- i.e. Miller?)
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7/5/2010  4:52 PM
VDesai wrote:What if we S&T Lee for Amare? Would we then be able to give Amare a 6th year but a little bit less per annum (thus giving us more space to add a 3rd FA- i.e. Miller?)

I think the Suns renounced Amare's rights

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7/5/2010  4:53 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
VDesai wrote:What if we S&T Lee for Amare? Would we then be able to give Amare a 6th year but a little bit less per annum (thus giving us more space to add a 3rd FA- i.e. Miller?)

I think the Suns renounced Amare's rights

Not yet- they haven't officially inked Warrick yet. If they bring in Lee for Amare I think the difference in the salaries may give them enough space to take on Warricks deal. At least I thought I read something like that last night.

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7/5/2010  4:54 PM
VDesai wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
VDesai wrote:What if we S&T Lee for Amare? Would we then be able to give Amare a 6th year but a little bit less per annum (thus giving us more space to add a 3rd FA- i.e. Miller?)

I think the Suns renounced Amare's rights

Not yet- they haven't officially inked Warrick yet. If they bring in Lee for Amare I think the difference in the salaries may give them enough space to take on Warricks deal. At least I thought I read something like that last night.

I'm not sure how that works... if it's possible to do what you said well then yeah I'm all for that

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7/5/2010  5:02 PM
I'm ruling it out. I'd like to focus on new bodies going forward.
Lee needs space to be, and pairing him with amare is a disservice to him.
Go for bron bron and put all your eggs into a melo amare monsterpiece!

I've seen the perfect scenario for the Knicks and it does not involve David lee.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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7/5/2010  5:02 PM
Lee becomes future trade fodder. Not a bad Idea for maintaining value.

You know, If Lebron wants a certain situation to happen, he better get off his high ass horse and make a decision.

If he gotta 100 crying campers so beit but unless he wants a choice of Cleveland or play with Beas and some Dleaguers he better get-er-done!

Im sure those "backchannels" are digging tunnels as we speak.

Its all a charade.

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7/5/2010  5:06 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
VDesai wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
VDesai wrote:What if we S&T Lee for Amare? Would we then be able to give Amare a 6th year but a little bit less per annum (thus giving us more space to add a 3rd FA- i.e. Miller?)

I think the Suns renounced Amare's rights

Not yet- they haven't officially inked Warrick yet. If they bring in Lee for Amare I think the difference in the salaries may give them enough space to take on Warricks deal. At least I thought I read something like that last night.

I'm not sure how that works... if it's possible to do what you said well then yeah I'm all for that


Because the Knicks are under the cap they don't have to salary match on a S&T. I'm not 100% sure that leaves room for Warrick but if the Suns could get Lee instead of Warrick I'm sure they'd be all over that. He's a much better player.

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7/5/2010  5:08 PM
I would faint if the scenario plays out.
Curry + Chandler + walker for melo
Lee + Tony Douglas for Parker ...

Heck, I just don't know anymore.

Amare has me pining for the 2011 class.

Must say most fun off season ever.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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7/5/2010  5:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
misterearl wrote:Briggs - the Atlanta Hawks won a bunch of games and got dropped like second period French in the playoffs

the objective is to win a championship

one more time with feeling....

David Lee is not a center


How tall was Dave Cowens?

didnt the Cs win a championship with Silas at 6-7 PF and Cowens 6-9?

Different rules these days. You have the circle, the pace of the game is faster I would venture and what was Boston's bench like those two didn't play the whole way. The game is far different today.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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7/5/2010  5:08 PM
TMS wrote:
s3231 wrote:If we finalize with Amare and strike out on the other big FAs (e.g. LeBron, Wade) then why not bring Lee back?

if you're a fan of the idea of giving up more points than we'll be scoring, then it's a great idea.

Or I'm just a fan of having as many assets/trading chips as possible.

There's a lot of interest in Lee and with all that is said about NY not having assets, why not bring him back if all else fails? If we ever have to do a sign and trade for Melo at some point, wouldn't it be nice to have a young all-star big man to use as a chip?

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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