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7/2/2010  11:11 PM
Andrew wrote:
loweyecue wrote:STEPHEN A. SMITH ON ESPN 1050: Amare and Joe Johnson will take pay cut if LeBron comes.

Comes where


comes where indeed? isnt joe johnson going to ATL?!!?

And these players DO NOT understand the cap. They think if they give up a million a year, they can sign another max player.

The only place that can sign 3 near max players is Miami, and that's if they renounce Wade.

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7/2/2010  11:13 PM
Caseloads wrote:
Andrew wrote:
loweyecue wrote:STEPHEN A. SMITH ON ESPN 1050: Amare and Joe Johnson will take pay cut if LeBron comes.

Comes where


comes where indeed? isnt joe johnson going to ATL?!!?

And these players DO NOT understand the cap. They think if they give up a million a year, they can sign another max player.

The only place that can sign 3 near max players is Miami, and that's if they renounce Wade.

I don't think its realistic, probably take -30M from JJ and Amare. Especially JJ having to kiss goodbye to year 6. I think its just SAS spewing his usual.

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7/2/2010  11:16 PM
But if it had any legs and amare took les than Max with Lebron in tow for Max, that would let us get some other players to surround them with.
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7/2/2010  11:43 PM
loweyecue wrote:But if it had any legs and amare took les than Max with Lebron in tow for Max, that would let us get some other players to surround them with.

why would amare take less than max? he left phx because they dissed him for less than max
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7/3/2010  12:26 AM
Caseloads wrote:
loweyecue wrote:But if it had any legs and amare took les than Max with Lebron in tow for Max, that would let us get some other players to surround them with.

why would amare take less than max? he left phx because they dissed him for less than max

True - but they can't sign Lebron - which could be worth giving up that extra year.

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7/3/2010  12:31 AM
CHAOS wrote:ESPN states, Bosh will accompany Wade for the 2nd meeting

for what? moral support.... bosh wants max money, he is not taking less, especially if amare gets a max deal... this is all a bunch of junk reporting...

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7/3/2010  12:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2010  12:36 AM
Andrew wrote:
loweyecue wrote:STEPHEN A. SMITH ON ESPN 1050: Amare and Joe Johnson will take pay cut if LeBron comes.

Comes where

Has an orgasm. (Hopefully an appropriate location).

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7/3/2010  12:43 AM
I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.
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7/3/2010  12:54 AM
Wearing the red shirt & shorts, and the Jordan logo to the Knicks meeting was the tipoff for me.
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7/3/2010  4:52 AM
I don't know why anyone would sign with Chicago- the owner is just way too cheap! The way the treated Jordan, Pippen and Phil Jackson would surely put Wade off (I seem to remember him claiming how important loyalty from the franchise and the way they treat their players was important). i still thgink Wade stays in Miami and only uses Chicago as an emergency back up option if the Heat are unable to land anyone else of value (maybe they'll go for david Lee or Boozer if they can't get Bosh- don't know if that'll be enough)
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7/3/2010  9:33 AM
wade is playing the bulls. i think he's just trying to muck things up for teams like the knicks and bulls.

wade wants lebron in MIAMI. wade wants to be in miami. i think he's only meeting with these teams to distract them from lebron or spy on their pitch.

wade is playing people here and it seems shockingly obvious - there is no way he leaves miami.

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7/3/2010  11:56 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.

Ariza, Scola and possibly Brooks might be the main pplayers being talked about...but this might be a good thing. If we get Amare, it doesn't matter if we lose out on Bosh, but him going to Houston might make Wade have to rethink his situation. Bosh in Hou, Bron back to Cleve, and Stat in NY, will force Wade to make a decision. Does he stay in Miami and play alongside Boozer? Does he think Boozer is the piece that can help him get another championship? Probably not. This might put us back in play for Wades services, along with Chicago.

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7/3/2010  12:01 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.

Ariza, Scola and possibly Brooks might be the main pplayers being talked about...but this might be a good thing. If we get Amare, it doesn't matter if we lose out on Bosh, but him going to Houston might make Wade have to rethink his situation. Bosh in Hou, Bron back to Cleve, and Stat in NY, will force Wade to make a decision. Does he stay in Miami and play alongside Boozer? Does he think Boozer is the piece that can help him get another championship? Probably not. This might put us back in play for Wades services, along with Chicago.

Yep, same exact thing I posted on the Bosh's comments thread yesterday. Bosh to Hou would be good for us.

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7/3/2010  12:02 PM
Uptown wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.

Ariza, Scola and possibly Brooks might be the main pplayers being talked about...but this might be a good thing. If we get Amare, it doesn't matter if we lose out on Bosh, but him going to Houston might make Wade have to rethink his situation. Bosh in Hou, Bron back to Cleve, and Stat in NY, will force Wade to make a decision. Does he stay in Miami and play alongside Boozer? Does he think Boozer is the piece that can help him get another championship? Probably not. This might put us back in play for Wades services, along with Chicago.

Houston would get screwed in that deal for Bosh. No way Bosh is worth the same as Brooks, Ariza and Scola - imo.

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7/3/2010  12:35 PM
skeng wrote:
Uptown wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.

Ariza, Scola and possibly Brooks might be the main pplayers being talked about...but this might be a good thing. If we get Amare, it doesn't matter if we lose out on Bosh, but him going to Houston might make Wade have to rethink his situation. Bosh in Hou, Bron back to Cleve, and Stat in NY, will force Wade to make a decision. Does he stay in Miami and play alongside Boozer? Does he think Boozer is the piece that can help him get another championship? Probably not. This might put us back in play for Wades services, along with Chicago.

Houston would get screwed in that deal for Bosh. No way Bosh is worth the same as Brooks, Ariza and Scola - imo.

Bosh and Yao may not even work well togeher, but that's Houston's problem (pun indeed). They are going all out to get Bosh, fine!

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7/3/2010  12:39 PM
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Uptown wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I heard on Fox radio that Wade is meeting with Miami tomorrow. I also have read that Bosh maybe going to Houston in a sign and trade because he wants 6 years at the max. Houston sign and trade involves some combination of the assets the Knicks gave up in the McGrady trade.

Ariza, Scola and possibly Brooks might be the main pplayers being talked about...but this might be a good thing. If we get Amare, it doesn't matter if we lose out on Bosh, but him going to Houston might make Wade have to rethink his situation. Bosh in Hou, Bron back to Cleve, and Stat in NY, will force Wade to make a decision. Does he stay in Miami and play alongside Boozer? Does he think Boozer is the piece that can help him get another championship? Probably not. This might put us back in play for Wades services, along with Chicago.

Houston would get screwed in that deal for Bosh. No way Bosh is worth the same as Brooks, Ariza and Scola - imo.

They could pull Brooks back and offer our 1st rouder in 2012 or theirs. Doesn't matter. I dont see it as a lose situation for us if we sign Amare, it just opens up more options...

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7/3/2010  5:20 PM
Talk about your fireworks. This July 4 weekend may be about to produce some huge sparks—and duds—around the NBA as the free agent beauty pageant is about to conclude with LeBron James Saturday closing his series of free agency meetings in Akron with the home town Cavs and finally the Bulls.

He’s expected to be wearing his best sweat pants.

The big question is whether James is about to issue his own declaration of independence from Cleveland or remain a loyalist. Because, after all, he is the king, or so he says.

The drama ratcheted up Friday as Dwyane Wade had a second meeting with the Bulls, setting off a frenzy of speculation that Wade was either concocting an elaborate power play to seal off James by beating him to Chicago along with Chris Bosh and arranging the super team for Chicago with Bosh and LeBron to join Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah.

Wade’s second session with the Bulls kicked off all kinds of wild theories and anonymous source spread certainty that was perhaps appropriate for this basketball madness that is building to a dramatic conclusion.

That should come shortly after this weekend as James and Wade likely make their decisions. Though it seems several of the major free agents already have made theirs.

Joe Johnson is virtually certain to return to Atlanta for a six year maximum salary contract.

Rudy Gay has agreed to return to Memphis for an extension larger than anything he could have garnered on the open market.

Amar’e Stoudemire seems headed to New York for the largest deal he could get as his home town Suns declined to fully guarantee the final years of a five-year deal.

What all the apparent agreements had in common is each player took every last penny he could get, which suggests a return to Cleveland for James and a return to Miami for Wade.

So what, exactly, is going on?

From everything I have heard, Wade does not want to play with James. He wants to beat James. He’s had enough of being the other guy despite the one with the championship. So you ask, what was Pat Riley doing almost all day Friday in Akron meeting with James?

It may be what Wade was asking and his own subtle message to Riley that if you are pursuing James, I can go other places.

As I outlined in my NBA column last Monday on Bulls.com, it would be a brilliant strategic move for Wade to box in James by going to the Bulls with Chris Bosh, with whom Wade seems closest.

Wade, really, fits better with Rose and the Bulls, who lack a shooting guard after giving up Ben Gordon, John Salmons and Kirk Hinrich, while James duplicates Luol Deng’s position. Then you add Bosh with Taj Gibson a backup and Noah and the Bulls have a loaded top of the rotation.

That also would eliminate Miami for James and he either returns to Cleveland without a supporting cast to match or goes to New Jersey with maybe Carlos Boozer and tries to dig out from 12 wins.

That, obviously, would be the Bulls dream scenario and the one I’ve felt fits best among the grand plans.

A lot of it requires players giving up money to go for wins, which doesn’t seem to be happening anywhere. Could Stoudemire seriously think he’s going to win more with that Knicks’ roster?

I don’t believe that’s what Wade is up to. I believe he was sending a message to Riley to get to work on Bosh. Others believe Wade was more in a stalling tactic to delay and obfuscate the Bulls free agency plans.

The latest word is the Raptors don’t want any big sign and trade for Bosh, but might take back draft picks only. The big issue for Bosh is he wants the sixth year maximum along with Wade, and the Bulls cannot deliver that to both. They might be able to put together three firsts for a sign and trade for Bosh, though Miami might have a slight edge as they own a Toronto first the Raptors would like back from the Jermaine O’Neal deal.

Would Bosh go elsewhere, like Houston, for that sign and trade. Most doubt it.

So comes the Bulls, who met with Wade, Bosh, Boozer and David Lee over the last day or so and head into Cleveland to make their pitch to LeBron.

It’s a tenuous one for salary reasons, though no one seems to think James wants or needs the six year maximum salary deal because of who he is and what he can make.

The Bulls appeal to James probably rests on persuading him who else they have gotten an assurance from who could team with James to join Rose and Noah.

Frankly, there’s no way James and Wade are going to play with or mesh with Rose, so the presumption is the Bulls have to lock up a commitment from a power forward and show James that would enable him to win and stay ahead of the team Miami has assembled with Wade.

Lurking in the background is the Nets, who have this unusual appeal of the Russian billionaire owner and what vistas that could open for James. They seem like a third option after the Cavs, who officially introduced new coach Byron Scott, and the Bulls.

While the Bulls have their eyes on the big ball heading into Saturday’s final face off, they have to also be considering the alternative and what if James stays. There’s been talk of late Boozer has had interest in the Nets and could go there, which would leave the Bulls grasping for someone like David Lee and an aggressive trading approach that has had them linked to a deal with Portland for Luol Deng and the likes of free agent guards like Mike Miller, whom the Knicks are said to be pursuing to add to Stoudemire, and J.J. Redick.

This is the kind of high stakes poker fit more for Amarillo Slim.

It looks like boom or bust and we’re approaching the final hand.

Hey, it didn’t look good for those rag tag American militia, either. We know the players are going to have a happy 4th. There are

Makes sense to me

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7/3/2010  5:42 PM
kam77 wrote:Why would Wade and Bosh go to Chicago together when they can be in Miami together with a championship coach (Riley)?

it puts pressure on Riley to give in to Bosh's desire for a full max contract... as it stands Miami is trying to sell the big 3 on some kakamaymee plan of signing for $11M deals each... Lebron ain't coming to Miami to play second fiddle to D Wade... his ego's way too big for that.

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