Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:do you really think shaving 3-4 points & 1-2 rebounds off their career totals would really effect their standing in the HOF if they won multiple championships together? come on bro... i get the point about egos & i agree, that's the reason why these guys will pass up the chance to play with each other, but that's beside the point... people think that winning in NY is going to lure Lebron here, but what proof do we have that it's appealed to other bigname NBA FA's?

I just think some players want to be "the man", so to speak. I think in the NBA it's tough, because in the scenario you gave, whatever center had joined the Knicks would've been technically playing out of position. I think those guys are good enough to overcome it, but not every player wants to do that. I think NY does have allure. Whether it will affect LeBron enough to want to play here is unknown. Like any city, New York has its positives and negatives. I think at this point, we have more questions than answers. We should have some answers soon.

i agree w/u on guys wanting to be "the man" on their teams... all these athletes have super huge egos, especially the biggest name stars... it's a big part of what makes them great, that supreme confidence in their own abilities & wanting to take on any challenge & shine... & i do agree that NYC does hold allure because of the stage & the marketing possibilities, but to pretend like we hold such a huge advantage over other cities when it comes to getting bigname stars to want to come here when it hasn't really happened in the past (at least from an NBA standpoint) is kinda empty speculation at best IMO.

Yeah, I kinda agree with what you're saying. I think NYC does have an edge, but the edge is on an individual level and it may not affect every player. Is it a huge edge? If we're comparing to Memphis, yes. If we're comparing to Chicago, maybe not so much. Plus, a lot of NBA players like warm weather, which is a downside of NYC.

It's tough to compare it, though, because we haven't really been in this situation, except for '96. Because of the reasons I listed, I don't think '96 was a good indication. Now, on the flipside, if you look at the Yankees, a lot of big name players have come to the Yankees over the years. Some couldn't handle the pressure, but I do think the allure is there. Although, it may be unfair to compare to the Yankees, because that is a legendary team. Maybe the Meuts would be a better comparison. Ugh!

I wonder if there is one Kenny Rogers fan in NY. I'd like to meet that person.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:do you really think shaving 3-4 points & 1-2 rebounds off their career totals would really effect their standing in the HOF if they won multiple championships together? come on bro... i get the point about egos & i agree, that's the reason why these guys will pass up the chance to play with each other, but that's beside the point... people think that winning in NY is going to lure Lebron here, but what proof do we have that it's appealed to other bigname NBA FA's?

I just think some players want to be "the man", so to speak. I think in the NBA it's tough, because in the scenario you gave, whatever center had joined the Knicks would've been technically playing out of position. I think those guys are good enough to overcome it, but not every player wants to do that. I think NY does have allure. Whether it will affect LeBron enough to want to play here is unknown. Like any city, New York has its positives and negatives. I think at this point, we have more questions than answers. We should have some answers soon.

i agree w/u on guys wanting to be "the man" on their teams... all these athletes have super huge egos, especially the biggest name stars... it's a big part of what makes them great, that supreme confidence in their own abilities & wanting to take on any challenge & shine... & i do agree that NYC does hold allure because of the stage & the marketing possibilities, but to pretend like we hold such a huge advantage over other cities when it comes to getting bigname stars to want to come here when it hasn't really happened in the past (at least from an NBA standpoint) is kinda empty speculation at best IMO.

Yeah, I kinda agree with what you're saying. I think NYC does have an edge, but the edge is on an individual level and it may not affect every player. Is it a huge edge? If we're comparing to Memphis, yes. If we're comparing to Chicago, maybe not so much. Plus, a lot of NBA players like warm weather, which is a downside of NYC.

It's tough to compare it, though, because we haven't really been in this situation, except for '96. Because of the reasons I listed, I don't think '96 was a good indication. Now, on the flipside, if you look at the Yankees, a lot of big name players have come to the Yankees over the years. Some couldn't handle the pressure, but I do think the allure is there. Although, it may be unfair to compare to the Yankees, because that is a legendary team. Maybe the Meuts would be a better comparison. Ugh!

I wonder if there is one Kenny Rogers fan in NY. I'd like to meet that person.

There is.

... Oh, you meant the pitcher. Nope. Even his mom hates him.