Can people really be this blindly arrogant? As if he does not accept OUR challenge, hes scared? Whoever loses the LeBron sweepstakes is going to push some BS like that. If he leaves the Cavs, their fans will say "Well he didnt have the GUTS to stick around and finish what he started." If he does not go to the Bulls, their fans will say "he doesn't have the GUTS to come here and play in Jordans shadow". Its so ridiculously silly and just wreaks of scorned lover syndrome.

LeBron is going to go where he goes, and hes going to be illogically forever hated by the teams he turns down

Solace wrote:Well, you don't really expect him to get complimented if he doesn't come to NY, do you? Of course fans are going to say stuff, so what? Happens everywhere. The only person without a passionate opinion is someone who doesn't care, as TMS highlighted.

Well of course not. We all will be disappointed if he does not come, but i think to take the next step and say he didn't come because he was FEARFUL of NY and the pressures that come with it, as Hahn said today, is just silly. Each and every team in this race is going to say something like that in some form if he does not go there. And lets face it, LeBron is going to be under massive pressure wherever he goes. When they lost to the Celts this year, ESPN was all LeBron for 3 days straight, blasting him and his team, I never saw anything like it. LeBron is under massive pressure to win titles regardless of where he goes now, and if he doesn't win titles whether hes in Cleveland or NY hes going to get roasted. The big bad NY media is overrated, especially for players who are national figures and will get both praise and blame on a national level. Hes reaching an age now where its sort of time for him to fill that hand with rings, the time where many said "hes still young, give him time" is passing. If LeBron stays in Cleveland next year, hes under massive pressure to win a ring.

TMS wrote:Lebron hasn't had an ounce of the media scrutiny & bashing that A-Rod has had to face over his career... if A-Rod can shed those demons & win out over the pressure, Lebron should be able to also... no one ever said being 1 of the most talented & gifted players in any sport was easy or would warrant you a fair shake in the media & with the fans... that's part of the burden you have to undertake when you're the tops in anything you do in life... you know what they say about pressure... sometimes it bursts pipes, & sometimes it makes diamonds. (ok cheesy pun but u get the point)

Id say Arod gave people a lot more reason to knock him. Even when you take the steroids out of it, Im not a baseball guy, but for a few years there Arod was having absolutely JOKE post seasons where he was beyond brutal and less than an average baseball player. We've never seen that from LeBron. I mean in this series against Boston, LeBron has ONE, count it, ONE poor game in the whole series, and was completely roasted apart for days on end after the series was over. When he lost in 09 against Orlando he had a great series, when he lost in 08 against Boston he dropped 45 in a game 7 losing effort. In 07 he took a team to the finals that had no business being there

LeBron gets roasted by the media for not shaking hands after they lost to Orlando in 09. Then he gets roasted by the media for being "too friendly" and sticking around to shake hands after they lost to Boston. My basic point is LeBron is going to be under a massive microscope wherever he goes because hes now a national figure and has been for quite some time. The pressure in NY would not be any greater, the media which likes to think they are a bunch of tough guys won't be able to put him under a bigger micrscope than he already is. LeBron is much bigger than his local media market

WOODMANnYk wrote:Bosh and Wade coming to NY. If anything, you lock them UP NOW.... Wade knows how to win and he's one of the best go- to guy in the NBA, probably right after Kobe. Hoprfully, when you get Bosh, you do a sign and trade with David Lee

Trade that fat slob for a premier starting pg..

pg. ? sg. Wade cen. Bosh Pf. Gallo, sf. Chandler, bench: douglas, Rautins, Jordan, Fields, Barron, Walker

there is no way in a million years that wade signs with the knicks. it's just not happening.

TMS wrote:

KnicksSince88 wrote:for a few years there Arod was having absolutely JOKE post seasons where he was beyond brutal and less than an average baseball player.

which seasons are you referring to?

ARod used to get roasted for sneezing the wrong way until he came through & came through HUGE for the Yankees last year in the postseason.

that seems to be the deal with guys the yanks bring in to "replace" a big name. mantle got poop cuz joe d stepped away. maris got poop cuz mantle was hurt and maris wasnt mantle, etc... plus its ny. gotta create some interest from the media or folks will turn away.

KnicksSince88 wrote:

TMS wrote:

KnicksSince88 wrote:for a few years there Arod was having absolutely JOKE post seasons where he was beyond brutal and less than an average baseball player.

which seasons are you referring to?

ARod used to get roasted for sneezing the wrong way until he came through & came through HUGE for the Yankees last year in the postseason.

Like I said, im really not a close baseball follower, i wish i could come up with a lot of concrete series examples, but wasn't there one stretch in his yankee career, spanned over multiple post seasons, where he was absolute trash? Didn't Joe Torre bat Arod 8th in an elimination game because he was so brutal? That would be like the Cavs making LeBron their 9th man off the bench

in the postseason, yes, he was definitely a walking trainwreck at the plate for a couple of years... sorry i missed where you mentioned postseason, thought you were referring to the regular season.

anyway, he was able to get that monkey off his back last year, but that was a product of the pressure of playing in NY... he actually had very good numbers in the postseason over his career before he got here... & we all know the crap he went through the last couple years w/the whole steroid scandal, divorce, blonde mistress & all the rest, & that was just from the media... then there was all the criticism he'd get from fellow players for "not playing the game the right way" & all the other nonsense, even though the guy gives 100% effort on every single play & at bat... you won't be able to please everyone ever, especially if you're in your own league when it comes to talent & ability.

... what i'm saying is that's part of the territory for some guys because people are always ready to tear a guy down, especially a guy who's percieved to be so great a talent but not necessarily the type of guy that most people can identify with because they have zero inkling whatsoever of the type of pressure these guys have to live through & all the expectations that people place upon them... i think if Lebron wants to be percieved with universal respect from fans around the sport, he's going to have to carve out a winner's legacy just like Michael Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kareem & guys like that have been able to do... i used to curse & despise Michael Jordan, but over the years even after heartbreaking defeat after heartbreaking defeat he gave to us, i just couldn't help but to develop a huge respect for the guy's greatness... just like ARod was able to take that first huge step last year by carrying the Yankees in some huge clutch postseason moments, i think if Lebron can do that, then people will naturally come to respect the guy & not hate on him for dissing their city, being another spoiled egomaniac, or whatever else... in the end, winning is going to play a huge role in determining his legacy just like it is for every other great athlete that plays any sport.

fishmike wrote:

djsunyc wrote:bosh + jose (or hedo) for curry + TPE...

bosh is the belle of the ball. everyone needs him first.

Not sure I want either of those dbags. Taking Bosh and his my play tails off after 50 games is tough enough. Adding Caldersissy or Horseglu is tough. Get Bosh here for a $100mm first. Keep Curry.

I guess if its a must I take Hedo. He would be very good and probably very happy in pringles offense