AnubisADL wrote:

arkrud wrote:

cuieee wrote:For a long time I have held out hope that the Knicks could get Lebron. But in a weird way, this turn of events makes me all but certain that its just not going to happen. If he doesnt come out for a recruiting visit, I dont think the Knicks have a chance to get him. The Knicks arent the best team for him to join. Chicago with Rose, Noah, Deng? and cap space and Miami with Wade and cap space are. And if he doesn't have the opportunity to be wowed by the bright lights and big city... the Knicks dont have it.

I just really hope we dont get Carlos Boozer.

This is all about building his own legacy in NYC or joins other man show in Chi or Miami.
What is LeBron about we will see soon.
To be honest if he is all about easy ways to get to the top I am not dying to get him.
But I still believe he can surprise me.

Do you realize he wont have legacy if he doesn't win anything? I have a feeling Bosh is heading to Miami. This will lead to Lebron heading to Chicago to counter.

Noah, Rose, and James VS Wade, Beasley, Bosh

The extra cash each team has will be used to fill out the holes in their respect roster.

I doubt Lebron wants to come to NY and get owned by Wade and Bosh in the playoffs.

Even though I think Chicago is looking more and more like Lebrons destination if he spurns Cleve, I still dont see Lebron and Rose (lil Lebron) working together especially if you throw Bosh in the mix aswell.

iSergio wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

iSergio wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

arkrud wrote:

cuieee wrote:For a long time I have held out hope that the Knicks could get Lebron. But in a weird way, this turn of events makes me all but certain that its just not going to happen. If he doesnt come out for a recruiting visit, I dont think the Knicks have a chance to get him. The Knicks arent the best team for him to join. Chicago with Rose, Noah, Deng? and cap space and Miami with Wade and cap space are. And if he doesn't have the opportunity to be wowed by the bright lights and big city... the Knicks dont have it.

I just really hope we dont get Carlos Boozer.

This is all about building his own legacy in NYC or joins other man show in Chi or Miami.
What is LeBron about we will see soon.
To be honest if he is all about easy ways to get to the top I am not dying to get him.
But I still believe he can surprise me.

Do you realize he wont have legacy if he doesn't win anything? I have a feeling Bosh is heading to Miami. This will lead to Lebron heading to Chicago to counter.

Noah, Rose, and James VS Wade, Beasley, Bosh

The extra cash each team has will be used to fill out the holes in their respect roster.

I doubt Lebron wants to come to NY and get owned by Wade and Bosh in the playoffs.

If LeBron James comes here, either Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudemire will follow. And we are up to par with Chicago, who wouldn't have made the Playoffs with that "great" talent if Bosh didn't get hurt for Toronto, and Miami. The idea that a Knicks team with LeBron and Bosh isn't as good as the Bulls or Heat is just plain hate.

No. Gallinari, Chandler, Douglas, Walker, Curry, 2nd round picks is not better than Rose, Noah, Deng, James Johnson, Taj Gibson.

And all of our players combined aren't better than Wade.

So we're not up to par.

You forgot to mention that we are the only team that can offer LeBron James the opportunity to play with Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudemire. And a Knicks team with Bosh/Amare, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas and whatever we get back for Eddy Curry's $11.3M expiring contract is better then Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, Luol Deng and their $13M. The Bulls wouldn't even have made the Playoffs if Bosh didn't get hurt for Toronto.

False. The Chicago Bulls can offer him that same thing. And don't tell me about $3 million difference. They can get it done.

Chris Bosh is not signing for $13M. Chicago cannot get it done. Unless Toronto takes on Luol Deng and his insane contract, which won't happen.

Honestly dude, you are in denial. Chicago will move Gibson and Johnson if they really have to. And if they don't? They'll try to sign Bosh anyway. And if they can't? They can sign Joe Johnson or Carlos Boozer. They still have the advantage in the end. Their roster is better than ours. There is nothing else to say about this. Their roster is better.

OK Chris Broussard. Hopefully LeBron James isn't as foolish as you.

Yes, LeBron James is a fool is he chooses a guy who will be a perennial all-star in Rose and a very good, if not great, defensive center in Noah over an unproven Gallinari and a bunch of role players.

And another thing, the Broussard hate has gotten old. Let's stop taking out our frustrations on him because he is reporting things his sources tell him.

Seriously guys. I hate Broussard but at this point all he is doing is reporting stories from sources.

And if those sources are saying he isn't coming to NY then he probably isn't coming.

Insulting Broussard isn't going to change anything and really makes no sense in the big picture. LeBron is not spurning New York because of Chris Broussard.

If you want to insult one guy, insult LeBron's bandwagon loser of a friend named Maverick Carter. Nice name BTW. Did his family grow up Mavs fans? Is he the illegitimate child of Dirk Nowitzki? If it wasn't for LeBron, this guy would be a nobody on the streets of Cleveland trying to sell dope to teenagers.

nixluva wrote:To me none of that fancy sideshow stuff was going to do it anyway. I felt that if DW and MDA had any hope of landing Lebron, it was going to be in how they planned to build the team this summer and next. They can easily make their intentions clear in that meeting without the pomp and circumstance.

1. Being able to pair him with Bosh or Amare, his choice.

2. Having the cap space coming from Curry's Exp. Contract will allow further enhancement of the roster. This new Knicks team could offer the best supporting cast he's ever had and room to grow cuz the Knicks would still have a good cap situation next year after Curry comes off, which is unlike Cleveland's caplocked status.

3. A roster having players that enhance his game and complement what he does best. He's a distributor almost as much as he is a devastating scorer, if not more so. We have guys that can knock down the open shot. Bosh, Gallo could be a really good pairing for him and it doesn't stop there if DW does his job with the rest of the roster.

4. The style of ball here would also be perfect for him. D'Antoni coached teams are always at 20 or more assists per game. There's tons of passing and high % scoring. They'd have to go over the plans on D and convince him that it can be effective with good players playing it and this time they plan to have the proper size inside to really enhance what the defense can do.

5. I think it would be easy to assume that Rose or Wade make a better situation for Lebron, but then in Rose he has to basically take away from much of what makes Rose special in handling the ball or in Wade he would basically be joining a guy that already has a title and his own city. Here he is the big kahuna despite what Bosh may think of himself. Bosh's game would be a complement as would Gallo's. We don't have a problem of duplication of what he does best.

6. People love to hate on Dolan, but his pockets are deep and he's not afraid to spend in order to help the team. This time tho it would be for the right players. The Knicks would never hold him up in an effort to try and save money. They made 304 Mil this year and the team stunk!!!

Nix, that's an excellent writeup and I feel a little better after reading it. You hit every possible pro-Knick point there is to make right on the head. I'm still down on them for last night and for what they most likely plan on putting together for summer league, but that did make me feel better. I've been saying the same stuff you just talked about here for awhile now -- it just gets tough to get behind our leadership after a night like last night and after what Paladin's now reporting about summer ball...I'll try to remain hopeful though. Thanks for the encouragement. I think a lot of people around here needed that. I definitely did.

Ill be honest--the Knicks --the way they have gone about their business dont deserve any gifts. It scks because Im not getting any younger --Im sure that is the same with many guys here. Why didnt we spend a few mm and 1mm in cap to secure Whiteside and Hobson? Christ we cant even get anyone to play for the SL team--and we think Lebron is coming back to this shell of a team???

RAUTINS BABY!!!

nike executives said when maverick carter negotiated lebron's new deal (aaron goodwin did the first one), they were shocked at how amateurish maverick carter was. i hope lebron really trusts the guy he's entrusted his entire career to - his high school basketball buddy. it seems ridiculous and kinda sad. how can you become a billionaire when you are letting some kid who doesn't know what he's doing make all these decisions for you?

Childs2Dudley wrote:

crzymdups wrote:this seems like it's more maverick carter's idea than lebron's. and we all know maverick is trying to force him to chicago. so that's that, i guess.

nike executives said when maverick carter negotiated lebron's new deal (aaron goodwin did the first one), they were shocked at how amateurish maverick carter was. i hope lebron really trusts the guy he's entrusted his entire career to - his high school basketball buddy. it seems ridiculous and kinda sad. how can you become a billionaire when you are letting some kid who doesn't know what he's doing make all these decisions for you?

so, maverick's plan to become a billionaire is to steal warren buffet's wallet? actually... that just might work.

Paladin55 wrote:Getting tired of the entire LeBronathon thing.

For sure. Although, I prefer the image of a serious, focused Lebron, rather then the on tour version.

Sangfroid wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:Getting tired of the entire LeBronathon thing.

For sure. Although, I prefer the image of a serious, focused Lebron, rather then the on tour version.

I agree. Shows some maturity on his part. Doesn't look like he wants to be part of a circus. It also might lead to a quicker decision which is a good thing. The last thing I want to see is this thing dragged out forever. Make the decision as quick as possible and then everyone can move on..

crzymdups wrote:this seems like it's more maverick carter's idea than lebron's. and we all know maverick is trying to force him to chicago. so that's that, i guess.

nike executives said when maverick carter negotiated lebron's new deal (aaron goodwin did the first one), they were shocked at how amateurish maverick carter was. i hope lebron really trusts the guy he's entrusted his entire career to - his high school basketball buddy. it seems ridiculous and kinda sad. how can you become a billionaire when you are letting some kid who doesn't know what he's doing make all these decisions for you?

Maverick Carter is Lebron's mouthpiece. He doesnt say anything Lebron doesnt want him to say. Lebron surrounds himself with these type of people for reason.

knicks1248 wrote:I actually respect him a little more for not acting like a beatle or some rock star on a summer premadonna tour.
If I recall, when we recruited Allan Huoston, Ermie, JVG, and Ewing, went his house. He didn't come running to the knicks, the knicks went running to him, samething with MDA, walsh and Dolan went to him

Yeah. Lebron isn't doing the tour because he thought about what it would look like. This is all about image for him. He's got to protect his brand. That's Maverick's job.