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CrushAlot
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6/25/2010  6:13 AM
This guy could have been invited to training camp. Why the picks were used like they were makes no sense when there was talent available. I was so excited when Alabi, Warren, Stephenson... were all still available. Then the Knicks ruin my summer again. I think these picks will haunt the Knicks like the Balkman pick. There are at least two or three guys that were logical picks that will go onto have very good careers that the Knicks passed up on in my opinion. Take limited guys who are mature, played 4 years and hit the three? Sounds like same old same old with this coach and gm.
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6/25/2010  9:51 AM
Do people not realize the guy did alot of NOTHING for 3 yrs then puts up monster stats as a Senior. That tells me all I need to know when you are talking about someone with a 40 inch vertical. Anyone can put up points when they are the main option jacking shots.
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6/25/2010  9:56 AM
CrushAlot wrote:This guy could have been invited to training camp. Why the picks were used like they were makes no sense when there was talent available. I was so excited when Alabi, Warren, Stephenson... were all still available. Then the Knicks ruin my summer again. I think these picks will haunt the Knicks like the Balkman pick. There are at least two or three guys that were logical picks that will go onto have very good careers that the Knicks passed up on in my opinion. Take limited guys who are mature, played 4 years and hit the three? Sounds like same old same old with this coach and gm.


orrrr...this could be a Genius move!

I thought Jordan Hill was a complete bust...jury is still out but he at least doesn't look like a complete waste of space on the floor

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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6/25/2010  9:56 AM
AnubisADL wrote:jacking shots.


22 points on 15.8 shots per game

you have no case.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/25/2010  9:57 AM
kam77 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:jacking shots.


22 points on 15.8 shots per game

you have no case.

Getting an average of 8 FTAs a game (not doing much with those though)

You know I gonna spin wit it
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6/25/2010  9:58 AM
i will bet someone $1 million dollars that they will play a snippet of strawberry fields everytime this guy scores...
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6/25/2010  9:58 AM
seriously..can we wait for the guy to get in a game or two before we judge?
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6/25/2010  10:05 AM
firefly wrote:One problem I can see from the video is that this kid will never ever play with Delonte West. His moms kinda hot, and who needs that kind of drama?

MILF to the highest degree.

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6/25/2010  10:06 AM
djsunyc wrote:i will bet someone $1 million dollars that they will play a snippet of strawberry fields everytime this guy scores...

not "fields of gold"?

You know I gonna spin wit it
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6/25/2010  10:10 AM
Never heard of the guy, but then again I have not heard of a lot of the guys until they are mentioned in UK. If someone mentioned him and posted that highlight clip then I would also be targeting him for the Knicks. He has a nice herky-jerky move and he uses all aspects of offensive basketball when he has the ball. Ball fakes, head fakes, change of direction. He seems to have a nice skill set. Defensively, he is very aware and has a good motor. He has a very good handle. His shot while not smooth looks like he shoots with confidence. Oh, and yeah his mom is hot.
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6/25/2010  10:11 AM
kam77 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:jacking shots.


22 points on 15.8 shots per game

you have no case.

You expect me to be hyped when the guy shoots 65% average from the FT line? Has a great senior year even though he had done little with those hops 3 prior seasons?

This guy is a replacement for Marcus Landry not Wilson Chandler.

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6/25/2010  10:52 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Do people not realize the guy did alot of NOTHING for 3 yrs then puts up monster stats as a Senior. That tells me all I need to know when you are talking about someone with a 40 inch vertical. Anyone can put up points when they are the main option jacking shots.

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kam77 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:jacking shots.


22 points on 15.8 shots per game

you have no case.

You expect me to be hyped when the guy shoots 65% average from the FT line? Has a great senior year even though he had done little with those hops 3 prior seasons?

This guy is a replacement for Marcus Landry not Wilson Chandler.

I'd say you were on a roll, but I think you'd be confused and think that was something you put butter on. But, please make some illogical rants some more. A player makes vast improvements and that's a negative? Are you done being utterly ridiculous?

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/25/2010  11:01 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
kam77 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:jacking shots.


22 points on 15.8 shots per game

you have no case.

You expect me to be hyped when the guy shoots 65% average from the FT line? Has a great senior year even though he had done little with those hops 3 prior seasons?

This guy is a replacement for Marcus Landry not Wilson Chandler.

You are spouting venom. He is a replacement for Marcus Landry-- not Wilson Chandler. I think we can all agree on that. He did shoot 65% from the FT line, he also was one of the best players at getting steals. He also was one of the most efficient players in the NCAA (#5 overall). Stop picking single faults with the guy cause like you said, he is an end of the bench player. We weren't getting Michael Jordan with the 39th pick overall. Give the kid a break.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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6/25/2010  11:02 AM
I found this writeup on Fields on bbi, my favorite football board. It's pretty thorough and was done by a reliable poster. I'll link it and copy it. I think we got a good player.

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=377640

NFT: Landry Fields, SG/SF, Stanford (Now of the NY Knicks)
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A preface: I've covered Stanford men's basketball, through radio and print, for the past two seasons. I've seen every game Landry has played since his sophomore year.

So, what do we have?

History

Landry entered school as a 17 year old, weighing about 100 pounds soaking wet. Great talent and athleticism, but he was very much a kid. There was talk that he should have either a) redshirted his freshman year or b) gone to prep school. He was one of the rare instances where Stanford lowered its admissions bar for a player, banking on the idea that he would improve dramatically both as a student and as a basketball player.

Both came true. He won the Pac-10 academic player of the year award as a senior, and should have won the straight up Pac-10 player of the year award, too--he was both the best and most valuable player in the conference in 2009-2010.

We'll get back to last season in a moment.

Landry comes in as a tremendously raw talent, and essentially rides pine for the first two years. This was the Lopez era, and also when Lawrence Hill (and, arguably, Anthony Goods) was at his peak. There was little room for him in the starting rotation.

He started getting more starts and far more minutes in 2008-2009. He tripled his minutes, points and rebounds. Still, on a team with four seniors, three of whom were long time starters, he remained an after-thought.

That brings us to 2009-2010. Stanford's historically rich basketball program had been depleted, the star freshman tore his ACL, and the team was picked, unilaterally, to finish last in the Pac-10.

From the beginning, the onus was on Landry, the lone senior of any consequence on a very young team, to become a) a leader, which he had never had to be before, and b) carry the team on his back. I spoke to him before the season began. He said something along the lines of "I didn't ask to be in this position, but I am and it's my responsibility to see it through." By now, he had filled out. Still a relatively slender guy, but far more muscular than he was when he arrived as a frosh and was nothing more than a string bean. Check out the difference:

Anyway, Stanford had a poor season, and finished 9th in the Pac-10. We were 14-18 on the year. That said, despite playing with more walk-ons than scholarship players, at some points, the Cardinal was close in nearly every single game. If not for missed free throws by our young PG with seconds remaining, we would have beat Kentucky; Oklahoma State, UCLA, Washington State and Arizona all escaped with narrow victories. A few bounces here and there, it's a different season.

Why do I mention this? Because Landry put us in that position. Make no mistake: without him, Stanford struggles to win more than 6-7 games. He was the lone consistent force. We'd occasionally get 20 point performances from our SG, Jeremy Green, but he would also go absent for games at at time. Landry, meanwhile, never scored less than 14 points in a contest, even though everyone on the court knew that he was getting the ball 95% of the time. I cannot stress just how talent-deficient Stanford was this season. Every single post-player was a walk-on, outside of one mid-major transfer. Our PG was actually a SG. Very few people could shoot FTs. There was zero depth. Even in the weak Pac-10, that was a bad place to be. And yet, Landry kept us competitive in nearly every single contest. It was him, and practically him alone.

Scouting Report

Let's look at Landry, the player, to see what the Knicks have. He played a de facto SF this season, but he was really a third guard and is a natural SG. Given that he's a legit 6'7" and has long arms, that's a nice little match-up problem. He's also had experience bringing the ball up court as a bit of a point-forward, and has done well in that regard.

Beyond that, he has good instincts attacking the rim, and has the hops to deliver posterizing dunks. Check out the link. Once he starts his approach, he's also pretty quick, and in transition, he can get up to a pretty significant top speed.

His jump shot is my favorite part of his game, because the improvements even within the 2009-2010 season alone have been tremendous. He went from being a liability beyond 12 feet to a consistent threat from just inside the arc. He can drain the shot from pretty much anywhere on the court. It's not a bankable asset juuuust yet but it's getting there.

His perimeter defense is very, very good. This is where the long arms really get to work (read: good number of steals). He can shut his man down, and has guarded everyone from centers to point guards.

His rebounding is also a strength, and he has a nice little tendency for put backs around the offense rim. But beyond that fanciness, he has the instincts for crashing the boards, and because he's a tall guy, he can outleap his competition.

My biggest concern is that he may be a step slow. That can be killer in the NBA. He doesn't have the greatest moves off the dribble. This would hurt him on offense, obviously, but it may also hinder him defensively against quicker perimeter players. He's athletic, but he's not a freak. And while this probably won't be the biggest concern for him with the Knicks, since he'll be a role player, he can have the tendency to make weird/bad mistakes late in games. And his FT shooting is decent (about 65-70%) but not where you want it to be for a SG. His three-point shooting is still a bit of a mystery, and not anything too reliable. He shoots about 35%, which isn't awful but nothing too great, either.

One criticism that I don't think holds any weight is that he's not strong enough. IMO, that carries over from when he was a younger player, but now, I've seen him, on multiple occasions, wrestle balls away from much bigger post players, and go up against them in the air--and win--consistently. He can still add bulk but he's a powerful guy.

Overall
Landry's collegiate career has been one of potential and rawness. Even as a veteran senior, he was still realizing his talent and making vast improvements in his game. The point being: he has not maxed out. There are reasons he was a second rounder--I've discussed them above--but do not fall into the fallacy of "good collegiate producer, limited upside." That is not the case. Why wasn't he a well-regarded prospect? Casey Jacobsen has some ideas, and I think he's on point: the pathetic display by Stanford this season caused scouts to look down on him, even though he was one of the best players in the country at his position and did pretty much everything he could to make the team respectable.

BTW, I'm trying to talk to Landry in the next couple of days. If you have anything you'd like me to ask, let me know.

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6/25/2010  11:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2010  11:16 AM
Ira wrote:I found this writeup on Fields on bbi, my favorite football board. It's pretty thorough and was done by a reliable poster. I'll link it and copy it. I think we got a good player.

The most interesting part to me is: Landry entered school as a 17 year old, weighing about 100 pounds soaking wet. Great talent and athleticism, but he was very much a kid.

The kid had a maturity transformation during his 4 years in college. He looks physically solid now.

He could be a genuine sleeper. Too early to tell, but you have to give him a chance.

I had NO idea this guy even existed before we picked him, but I think if I, and everyone else, had had time to research the guy we would not as surprised

Kerr also had some nice things to say about him after his Phoenix workout, by the way.

Time will tell... as always.

Great find, by the way!

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6/25/2010  11:17 AM
I have no problem taking this player if thats the way they wanted to go--I do have a problem witht he composition of the team and the absolute lack of effort in making the defensive side of the ball better--we literally haev a roster filled with 4 wings and a combo G --HOW MANY F SF/WING G DO THE NY KKNICS NEED WHY DID WE NOT GO ALL OUT TO GET WHITESIDE ONCE HE DIPPED??? WE ARE THE SMALLEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE--BY FAR YOU DO NOT WIN THAT WAY THERE WAS TALENT TO BE HAD HAD THE 5--WE MADE NO EFFORT
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6/25/2010  11:19 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I have no problem taking this player if thats the way they wanted to go--I do have a problem witht he composition of the team and the absolute lack of effort in making the defensive side of the ball better--we literally haev a roster filled with 4 wings and a combo G --HOW MANY F SF/WING G DO THE NY KKNICS NEED WHY DID WE NOT GO ALL OUT TO GET WHITESIDE ONCE HE DIPPED??? WE ARE THE SMALLEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE--BY FAR YOU DO NOT WIN THAT WAY THERE WAS TALENT TO BE HAD HAD THE 5--WE MADE NO EFFORT

You do realize that there are reports that Jerome Jordan is headed to NY right?

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6/25/2010  11:22 AM
Andrew wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I have no problem taking this player if thats the way they wanted to go--I do have a problem witht he composition of the team and the absolute lack of effort in making the defensive side of the ball better--we literally haev a roster filled with 4 wings and a combo G --HOW MANY F SF/WING G DO THE NY KKNICS NEED WHY DID WE NOT GO ALL OUT TO GET WHITESIDE ONCE HE DIPPED??? WE ARE THE SMALLEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE--BY FAR YOU DO NOT WIN THAT WAY THERE WAS TALENT TO BE HAD HAD THE 5--WE MADE NO EFFORT

You do realize that there are reports that Jerome Jordan is headed to NY right?

As far as I read he is headed to NJ--I have read nothing but BS that he is coming to NY. and even if he is he shouldve been picked ahead of Rautins--rautins shouldve been a later pick if that is what we did . I highly doubt Rautins would be picked.

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6/25/2010  11:24 AM
Gut has a 39 inch vert, is smart, and looks like he can shoot? What is the problem?

How is a guy like Stephenson who can only dunk, a better pick?

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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