DJMUSIC wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:
However just the kind of player MDA would push for
exciting offensive type PG/SG who can move to spots and hit jumpers. Nice smooth release

Nothing matters to MDA beside offensively gifted players whom Rudy is and been in league
what 3 yrs ? since 2007. To MDA it doesnt matter that Rudy is a poor rebounder for his
height/size and below avg defender.

Just what we need for MDA type of game plan.
Fernandez file(s)
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/rudy-fernandez

I wouldn't say that MDA only cares about offensive skills for his players. I think also that in the case of a SG rebounding isn't that big of a deal. Do you realize that Allan Houston at his best season avg'd 3.7 rebs and was actually at 2.9 for his career in only about 24 mpg. All this while playing about 35 mpg. Rudy has avg'd 2.7 so far in his career. I think the guy is a bit frail, but there's more to playing SG than pure strength.

One thing that you can be sure of and that is that MDA's system works best when you have multiple players on the floor who can think the game like a PG and make quick decisions with the ball and hit the open man. He doesn't really want the ball to stop and give a defense a chance to get set. He wants the defense on it's heels. That's how you make a team that plays with high efficiency like his teams have been in the past. When your team shoots 50% you have a really good chance to win almost every night.

I still believe MDA only cares most offensive type guys much more than defenders.
As far as Allan Houston he played on Good and poor knick teams and I would never
compare Rudy F to H20 despite these stats given. H20 had success in league prior
to knick days and Rudy isnt close to H20

No comparison no no nope!

Clearly you missed the point!!! If you had no problem with H2O basically rebounding at the same rate, why are you bashing a kid who is just starting and playing fewer minutes, but still getting about the same amount of rebs? Don't hold that against him when it's not that important a stat for a SG. Rudy isn't a Chandler type who can slide up into the 2, 3 or 4 spot, he would go the other way and play either 1, 2 or 3.

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather use Wilson or Toney to get Armon Johnson or Darington Hobson or something. I don't love Rudy.

Rudy is scrawny and not much bigger than Crawford. I would rather draft Johnson who is big and see how he and Douglas look together. Who knows

TMS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i like rudy, but i remember we said the same thing about sergio rodriguez...

i have no idea what the fascination is with these guys who have been nothing but backup players on other teams.

Rudy aint bad but he aint worth all the Knicks are giving him except if we get a draft pick
Rudy isnt better than Chandler or Toney

crzymdups wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

TMS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i like rudy, but i remember we said the same thing about sergio rodriguez...

i have no idea what the fascination is with these guys who have been nothing but backup players on other teams.

agreed TMS

Rudy aint bad but he aint worth all the Knicks are giving him except if we get a draft pick
Rudy isnt better than Chandler or Toney

Steve Adamek at the Bergen Record is saying the Knicks are talking trade with Portland for the 22nd pick.

Wilson for Rudy + 22 (Hassan Whiteside if he drops or Armon Johnson)?

this would be my guess if Chandler was included, no way it goes straight up for Chandler-Rudy

Knicks are not going to become lakers or celtics in 2010/11

however the draft seems more deeper for position needs.

NY needs alot & I have always maintained NY should build on draft and correct its draft misgivings

NJ already got 4 picks tomorrow nite

We can get good real quick with some young hungry talent

I'll give up Chandler in a flash if he brings some picks and anyone like Rudy or some need position
spot. I am not high on Rudy as some of the posters. Rudy is skilled but its not like rest of nba
teams knocking down blazers door to get him.

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather use Wilson or Toney to get Armon Johnson or Darington Hobson or something. I don't love Rudy.

exactly.. and like Douglas those are older players who can come in and help right away. More mature than your 19 year old freshman.

Rudy is scrawny and not much bigger than Crawford. I would rather draft Johnson who is big and see how he and Douglas look together. Who knows

I like Rudy, but not enough to give up Chandler or Douglas to get him. I can see him being a nice rotational player on a good team, but not a 35 MPG player on the Knicks. I might take Batum for Chandler, though, but the Blazers would not make that trade.

Chandler for Rudy and the Blazer's #22 pick might be more palatable for me. Chandler has been a more productive player than Rudy in the NBA, IMO, and I think that Douglas will eventually have more to offer the Knicks than Rudy.

...And if we were to get Lebron... I think Douglas would be a better fit for the team than Rudy anyway, especially on the defensive end, although Chandler's value to the Knicks will be reduced with James in the lineup.

Paladin55 wrote:Just looked at Portland's salary situation.

They are at $65 M for the upcoming year.

Would some cash and our 2012 #1 for their 2010 #22 be worth it if we cannot find a late #1 elsewhere?

Just wondering.