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NBA-Tv showing 1996 draft: The Kobe-Stephon-Iverson-Ray Allen Draft & 3 Knicks busts
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6/21/2010  8:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/21/2010  8:06 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Knicks just can't get the job done when it comes to drafting. The Ewing draft was OK imo. I mean, he never won us a chip.

The Ewing draft was beyond great. It was other drafts that were the reason we never won a chip. Like dealing the pick that turned out to be Scottie Pippen for JR Henderson so he could play 1 forgettable year for us. Or taking Hubert Davis ahead of Sprewell the first time around, and watching him make 1st team all nba in 94 the year we go to the finals. We surely wouldn't have sat through 2 for 18, thats for sure. I can go on and on, don't make me its too painful

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6/21/2010  8:29 PM
I don't know how you can blame Grunfeld or his scouts. They wanted the guys who turned out to be future HOFs and all-stars but because of their draft position was unable to move. Other scouts knew it was a top heavy draft and wanted no part of moving back. On the other hand, Donnie Walsh passed on a lot of good talent that he was in prime position to take.
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6/21/2010  8:45 PM
TMS wrote:look on the bright side DJ... we may have missed out on Travis Knight in the draft that year, but at least we were smart enough to acquire him a few years down the road.


yep my main man Travis Knight. The Pat ewing T.Knight/Glen Rice-ball lakers trade
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6/21/2010  8:53 PM
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DJMUSIC wrote:When you look at what picks Knicks had taken and what was available I can't fully blame the Knicks
This was a terrible draft selections all round. NY had 3 first round picks

Wow Kobe at 13th to Charlotte then to Lakers (draft day steal)
Iverson at least took 76ers to NBA Final once.

And when was last time you ever recall NYK having 3 (three) 1st round in any first round draft
at #18, #19 and #21. What a bust!

Let me see where we went wrong Ummm Derek Fisher available #24 ?
He wouldnt have won any 5 titles. Conspiracy


1996 NBA Draft, First Round
First Round Player College
1. Philadelphia Allen Iverson Georgetown
2. Toronto Marcus Camby Massachusetts
3. Vancouver Shareef Abdur-Rahim California
4. Milwaukee (1) Stephon Marbury Georgia Tech
5. Minnesota (1) Ray Allen Connecticut
6. Boston (from Dallas) Antoine Walker Kentucky
7. LA Clippers Lorenzen Wright Memphis
8. New Jersey Kerry Kittles Villanova
9. Dallas (from Boston) Samaki Walker Louisvile
10. Indiana (from Denver) Erick Dampier Mississippi State
11. Golden State Todd Fuller North Carolina State
12. Cleveland (from Wash.) Vitaly Potapenko Wright State
13. Charlotte Kobe Bryant Lower Merion HS
14. Sacramento Predrag Stojakovic PAOK (Greece)
15. Phoenix Steve Nash Santa Clara
16. Charlotte (from Miami) Tony Delk Kentucky
17. Portland Jermaine O'Neal Eau Claire HS
18. New York (from Detroit) John Wallace Syracuse
19. New York (from Atlanta) Walter McCarty Kentucky

20. Cleveland Zydrunas Ilgauskas Lithuania
21. New York Dontae' Jones Mississippi State
22. Vancouver (from Houston) Roy Rogers Alabama
23. Denver (from Indiana) Efthimis Rentzias PAOK
24. LA Lakers Derek Fisher Arkansas-Little Rock
25. Utah (2) Martin Muursepp BC Kalev Tallinn
26. Detroit (from San Antonio) Jerome Williams Georgetown
27. Orlando Brian Evans Indiana
28. Atlanta (from Seattle) Priest Lauderdale Peristeri (Greece)
29. Chicago Travis Knight Connecticut

Aside from draft picks 1-13 outside of Ray Allen, Iverson, Kobe, Nash and Stephon this was a weak
draft. The second round was even worst than 1st round in terms on no one really made it big.

Outside of 1 undrafted guy from Virgina Union named Ben Wallace.

this was labeled one of the best draft ever. its far from weak with a decent amount of all stars and hall of famers.

I am not sure about that
Aside from potentially Ray Allen and Allen Iverson,
Only Kobe (cobe) Bryant is a lock HOF-amer

Camby, Nash, Kittles and few others are notable mention. None of these are hall of famers
Nash may make it borderline.

This draft sux
Where other than those players mentioned and perhaps Nash, Stephon and Big Z' was this a great draft.
Did you ever go back and see the full second round draftees ?

Tell me which one of them you liked after 30th.
Believed the only real players whom helped playoff team were some between draft #1 to 15.

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6/21/2010  9:00 PM
The 96 draft was one of the best drafts ever. If it stunk so much, name 3-4 better in the last 20 years.

By my count, hall of famers are...

Kobe, Nash (hes won 2 MVP theres no way he does not make it), Iverson, Ray Allen, about 10 other guys were all stars, a defensive player of the year too.

Of course the draft tails off late, but all drafts are top heavy. This draft had more depth than most when you could draft guys like Nash, Peja, Jermaine Oneal and Ilgauskis OUTSIDE of the lottery (lotto was 13 teams back then). Thats just a sick draft. Probably had more combined all star games than any draft in the last 20 years (even if you discount fraudulent appearances like AI getting a couple fan votes he didnt deserve)

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6/21/2010  9:34 PM
These were the good 'ol days. LOL I remember I was so pumped up when we drafted John Wallace. I thought he was a Top 5 talent. What the heck happened to Wallace? He wasn't a complete scrub - he could score. His career ended way too early.

Walter McCarty and Dontae' Jones were awful picks. Both were traded a year later for Chris Mills.

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6/21/2010  9:58 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:

And when was last time you ever recall NYK having 3 (three) 1st round in any first round draft
at #18, #19 and #21. What a bust!
Frye,Robinson and Lee that was a pretty good draft.Excellant compared to this one.
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6/21/2010  10:04 PM
LMAO @ Todd Fuller and Samaki Walker being so high up.


Who did we really miss out on though? Big Z? Fisher? Maybe JYD would have been a good bench guy for that Knick team.

I guess those would have been the three I would have picked "instead".

Wallace had skill but he was an idiot and refused to listen to anyone trying to coach him or get him to play defense.
McCarty looked part way decent for Boston for a while before disappearing.
Dontae Jones LMFAO.

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6/21/2010  10:23 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
TMS wrote:look on the bright side DJ... we may have missed out on Travis Knight in the draft that year, but at least we were smart enough to acquire him a few years down the road.


yep my main man Travis Knight. The Pat ewing T.Knight/Glen Rice-ball lakers trade
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NBA-Tv showing 1996 draft: The Kobe-Stephon-Iverson-Ray Allen Draft & 3 Knicks busts

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