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Paladin55
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6/18/2010  11:32 AM
kam77 wrote:
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Solace wrote:I have to agree with you, Paladin. After what happened with Izzo, I think that's a good sign that no matter what happens, James is probably not going back to Cleveland. He didn't want to be involved with anything of the Izzo situation, because he didn't want to risk leading the Cavs on, so to speak.

For a guy who cares about his image, this is significant, because to be seen as "leading the Cavs on" instantly turns James, the local boy who made good, into a "bad guy" in the eyes of his home state.

On the contrary, landing Izzo for the CAVS could have been LeBron's last gift to Cleveland. Do you think they will find a better coach if LeBron leaves?

... a gift that was not going to happen, though, without a certain promise from James to Izzo. If Izzo was to be Lebron's "parting gift" to Cleveland, James surely did not anticipate that there were going to be some strings attached. Looking at it now, Izzo was obviously not going to become the Cavs' coach if Lebron did not give him some kind of sign that he was staying in Cleveland, and James, obviously, could not assure Izzo that he was staying, to the point where he would not even meet with him.

You might hypothesize that James deliberately chose to distance himself from Izzo, in an attempt to block him from becoming the Cav's coach, even though he had made some positive comments about him in the press, but I simply cannot believe that Cleveland would pursue Izzo if they did not think Lebron was on board with their choice of a new coach- in fact you would think that trying to sign Izzo was an attempt to get Lebron to think about staying.

For me the Izzo incident good news for us and not so good for the Cavs.

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6/18/2010  11:37 AM
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OasisBU wrote:Shaq coming doesnt sound too hot but he must have a chip on his shoulder now that Kobe has #5

If Lebron is wearing the blue and orange next year, would anyone really have a problam signing Shaq to a 1 yr deal? I'd resign JJ if it meant Lebron is joining the squad.

That's how I'm thinking.

Forget Shaq. I want Bosh first. Then Bron will come.

Shaq is only a conditional part of our future, if at all.

If James comes, then Bosh follows, especially if it seems that Amare is heading to Miami. If Bosh come, there is a much better chance of James coming.

If James and Bosh come, then, and only then will Shaq be in play.

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6/18/2010  2:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/18/2010  2:38 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
OasisBU wrote:Shaq coming doesnt sound too hot but he must have a chip on his shoulder now that Kobe has #5

If Lebron is wearing the blue and orange next year, would anyone really have a problam signing Shaq to a 1 yr deal? I'd resign JJ if it meant Lebron is joining the squad.

That's how I'm thinking.

Forget Shaq. I want Bosh first. Then Bron will come.

Shaq is only a conditional part of our future, if at all.

If James comes, then Bosh follows, especially if it seems that Amare is heading to Miami. If Bosh come, there is a much better chance of James coming.

If James and Bosh come, then, and only then will Shaq be in play.

Not to mention, if Amare joins up with Wade, there will be nothing holding Nash in Phoenix and he will demand either a trade or a cheap buyout, after which he will sign with the Knicks for a minimum salary, two years. A little birdie told me so. Peep peep.

How's this roster feel to everyone:

Shaq
Bosh
Gallo
Lebron
Nash

with Walker, TD, Chandler, Barron off the bench (plus filler). I see us buying pick #25 and we already have 38 & 39. Things are looking up. July 8th can't come soon enough.

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6/18/2010  2:56 PM
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6/18/2010  3:15 PM
iSergio wrote:Ugh, I really don't want Shaq here. I've always disliked him ever since he used to disrespect Patrick Ewing when he was a Rookie.

Shaq has been really weird in regards to Ewing over the years. I've heard him speak glowingly at times during his career about how much he loved Patrick growing up, how much he wanted to be like guys like him and Hakeem when he was a teenager. Then at other times ive heard him be blatantly disrespectful. Its bothered me at times too, but whatever, thats ancient history. My bigger issue with bringing him in is he has no game left. If this was 2000 I don't care if he blasted the crap out of Ewing (who is still my favorite athlete ever) Id take him on the team in a second

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6/18/2010  3:17 PM
Also I just can't wait until this ends either way. These last couple of years have been a roller coaster of emotions with little bits of news leaking out here and there that makes you optimistic one day and pessimistic the next. Throughout it all I don't want to get my hopes up too much because it all seems too good to be true. But I want this so bad, we deserve it
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6/18/2010  3:48 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Also I just can't wait until this ends either way. These last couple of years have been a roller coaster of emotions with little bits of news leaking out here and there that makes you optimistic one day and pessimistic the next. Throughout it all I don't want to get my hopes up too much because it all seems too good to be true. But I want this so bad, we deserve it

I am with you there. I am so tired of all this Lebron, Bosh, and Wade talk. July 8th cannot come soon enough.

Stephen A makes some sense, but it is a crap shoot at this point. I still think that the only way we get Lebron is if Bosh is willing to come with him. And if we can sign Shaq for the vet mininum, this team really would be a contender next season.

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6/18/2010  4:26 PM
djsunyc wrote:how about tony parker for eddy curry? could that happen?

LoL.

The new new core: Randle, RJ, IQ. Maybe Mitch. Future pick. Future trade. Future FA.
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6/18/2010  9:46 PM
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iSergio wrote:Ugh, I really don't want Shaq here. I've always disliked him ever since he used to disrespect Patrick Ewing when he was a Rookie.

Shaq has been really weird in regards to Ewing over the years. I've heard him speak glowingly at times during his career about how much he loved Patrick growing up, how much he wanted to be like guys like him and Hakeem when he was a teenager. Then at other times ive heard him be blatantly disrespectful. Its bothered me at times too, but whatever, thats ancient history. My bigger issue with bringing him in is he has no game left. If this was 2000 I don't care if he blasted the crap out of Ewing (who is still my favorite athlete ever) Id take him on the team in a second

Pretty sure he has said somewhere that when he was finally able to meet Patrick, that Ewing just brushed him off or something to that extent. From that point on, he has held a grudge against Patrick.

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6/19/2010  1:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2010  1:11 AM
The most amusing thing to me of all of this is L:arry Brown and Quentin richardson trying to convince him not to come here. Larry Brown, the guy who sat him in the 04 olympics and was a big reason we didn't get gold, the same Larry Brown who he might respect but probably isn't on his favorite person list. And Quentin Richardson? Could there be a more random NBA player? I've never even heard of any relationship with him and 'Bron either. It would be like LeBron making a decision on Chicago based on what Thabo Sefolosha tells him

Thats what kind of gives me a little pause about this report, because the idea that hes talking to Larry Brown or Q about this situation is far fetched to me

Lebron leaning towards NY, per Steven A. Smith.....

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