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ramtour420
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6/16/2010  8:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I tell you what, Bosh n LBJ against Wade n Amare... Heat knicks battles would reach new heights, The nBA would just love that

I love your way of thinking. This is best news for us as of yet. If this goes through, we benefit twice.

1) We woun't sign Stat. Good for us because i'd rather have Bosh. And I'd rather see our former archrival get him rather than Bosh.
2) This puts tremendous pressure on Lebron and Bosh to join forces. And they can't do it in Ohio, I hope.

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6/16/2010  11:07 PM
There are only two priorities:

#1 Be smart with your money. If you are left with lots of money and there is no one worth max deals (Joe Johnson, D Lee), don't sign them. Save the money for next year, for Melo.

#2 Draft your next superstars. We screwed this one up already.

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6/16/2010  11:10 PM
What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.
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6/17/2010  1:29 AM
KNICKSdom wrote:What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.

We would like to get a couple of blocks from the impending union.

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6/17/2010  7:47 AM
Sangfroid wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.

We would like to get a couple of blocks from the impending union.

bosh gets you less than 1 more blk/game than lee.

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6/17/2010  9:20 AM
Marv wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.

We would like to get a couple of blocks from the impending union.

bosh gets you less than 1 more blk/game than lee.

But Chris Bosh alters and challenges far more shots. David Lee just stands there with his jazz hands or gets out of the way when a guard goes for a layup. Bosh is 1000x better defensively than Lee. Hell, everyone on this board can probably play better D than Lee.

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6/17/2010  9:28 AM
iSergio wrote:
Marv wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.

We would like to get a couple of blocks from the impending union.

bosh gets you less than 1 more blk/game than lee.

But Chris Bosh alters and challenges far more shots. David Lee just stands there with his jazz hands or gets out of the way when a guard goes for a layup. Bosh is 1000x better defensively than Lee. Hell, everyone on this board can probably play better D than Lee.

tms is correct on this one. sometimes lee plays excellent defense and asserts his body on the action. other times he's passive or gets out of the way, and those times naturally capture a lot of attention.

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6/17/2010  11:15 AM
KNICKSdom wrote:What's wrong w Lebron/Lee vs Wade/Amare? I think that add more spice to a Knicks/Miami rivalry revival than a Lebron/Bosh pairing.

The problme with Lebron/Lee is I doubt Lebron see's Lee as a better option than Bosh....

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6/17/2010  3:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2010  3:27 PM
Id be very hesitant if i were any team banking on Amare. I honestly think if Phoenix replaced Amare with a guy like D-Lee they would not see a dropoff. Both are awful defenders, at least Lee mitigates some of his brutal defense with his well above average defensive rebounding (which is a part of defense, not allowing teams to get 2nd shots) Amare is really an average at best rebounder for the pace that Phoenix plays, and has never hit the double digit mark. I think Lee could easily average 20+ a game there just like Amare playing with Nash. Lee is a great pick and roll player and can now step out and hit from 15-18 feet. I'd also be worried about the mirco fracture with Amare, because even though he has come back fine from it, the procedure itself is only a short term fix, the type of cartilage that micro fracture forms in the knee is a weaker and less durable form than natural, so his career will undoubtedly be shortened some because of it. It's a race against the clock to see if the thing can hold up for 3-4 more years
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6/17/2010  4:37 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Id be very hesitant if i were any team banking on Amare. I honestly think if Phoenix replaced Amare with a guy like D-Lee they would not see a dropoff. Both are awful defenders, at least Lee mitigates some of his brutal defense with his well above average defensive rebounding (which is a part of defense, not allowing teams to get 2nd shots) Amare is really an average at best rebounder for the pace that Phoenix plays, and has never hit the double digit mark. I think Lee could easily average 20+ a game there just like Amare playing with Nash. Lee is a great pick and roll player and can now step out and hit from 15-18 feet. I'd also be worried about the mirco fracture with Amare, because even though he has come back fine from it, the procedure itself is only a short term fix, the type of cartilage that micro fracture forms in the knee is a weaker and less durable form than natural, so his career will undoubtedly be shortened some because of it. It's a race against the clock to see if the thing can hold up for 3-4 more years

Remember Amare is really young, most guy's who don't fully recover (allan n mashburn)are guy's in there late 20's to early 30's..

MDA told lee try your best to not pick up silly fouls, that takes away from your abilty to be agressive on defense.

Bosh blocks shots, lee rebounds like rodman and is the best big man shooter in the league.

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6/17/2010  6:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
KnicksSince88 wrote:Id be very hesitant if i were any team banking on Amare. I honestly think if Phoenix replaced Amare with a guy like D-Lee they would not see a dropoff. Both are awful defenders, at least Lee mitigates some of his brutal defense with his well above average defensive rebounding (which is a part of defense, not allowing teams to get 2nd shots) Amare is really an average at best rebounder for the pace that Phoenix plays, and has never hit the double digit mark. I think Lee could easily average 20+ a game there just like Amare playing with Nash. Lee is a great pick and roll player and can now step out and hit from 15-18 feet. I'd also be worried about the mirco fracture with Amare, because even though he has come back fine from it, the procedure itself is only a short term fix, the type of cartilage that micro fracture forms in the knee is a weaker and less durable form than natural, so his career will undoubtedly be shortened some because of it. It's a race against the clock to see if the thing can hold up for 3-4 more years

Remember Amare is really young, most guy's who don't fully recover (allan n mashburn)are guy's in there late 20's to early 30's..

MDA told lee try your best to not pick up silly fouls, that takes away from your abilty to be agressive on defense.

Bosh blocks shots, lee rebounds like rodman and is the best big man shooter in the league.

They have made advances in microfracture surgery and Amare being young benefited him, but there is still no procedure out there that can fully replicate the natural cartilage in the knee. The cartilage formed through the procedure and the drilling is less stronger and less durable than your natural cartilage, and is much more prone to being worn down over time. Theres no doubt that amare's knee issues will be revisited again at some point, because its only a matter of time before that cartilage wears down again. The trick is to buy as much time as you can, and hes already about 4-5 years removed from it, and may have another few left. But its a race against the clock with this procedure

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6/17/2010  6:34 PM
There was a lot of information posted about micro fracture surgery when the Mc Grady trade was made. It might be worthwhile finding that thread. I know Amare was mentioned and age was a big part of why he was able to recover.
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