sebstar wrote:

sidsanders wrote:these cats should give a decent sports view: Rangers Stanley Cup hero Mark Messier, former Giants Super Bowl winner Phil Simms and Knicks legends Willis Reed, Walt Frazier and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe.

Yo, I love all these cats --- but can we get somebody on board that aint old enough to be his daddy, or his grandpappy???

Where's Derek Jeter at?

think of it this way, those guys won titles in their respective sports after long droughts. jeter fits the bill as a winner, however the yanks are the top dog in mlb (gap in titles isnt near the others). knicks/rangers/giants had been down for decades at the time titles were won.

I don't give a (bleep) the 4 time NBA championp told the idiot media man who ask him.
The guy is getting a hell,ve a lot of attention for a guy who has a crown and no RING

knicks1248 wrote:This attention whore is killing the finals, Kobe said is best when ask what he thought about LBJ's up incoming FA..

I don't give a (bleep) the 4 time NBA championp told the idiot media man who ask him.
The guy is getting a hell,ve a lot of attention for a guy who has a crown and no RING

he actually said that?

Duke has got a lot of nerve considering the shyt he's pulled in his career. Whatever tho, I just want him to come to the Knicks, Im not concerned with all they hype surrounding his free agency or whatever role Lebron is playing in fueling that.

The currency of this country is hype and sensationalism, so all of this is par for the course.

sidsanders wrote:

sebstar wrote:

sidsanders wrote:these cats should give a decent sports view: Rangers Stanley Cup hero Mark Messier, former Giants Super Bowl winner Phil Simms and Knicks legends Willis Reed, Walt Frazier and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe.

Yo, I love all these cats --- but can we get somebody on board that aint old enough to be his daddy, or his grandpappy???

Where's Derek Jeter at?

think of it this way, those guys won titles in their respective sports after long droughts. jeter fits the bill as a winner, however the yanks are the top dog in mlb (gap in titles isnt near the others). knicks/rangers/giants had been down for decades at the time titles were won.

Yeah, but I dont know if their voices can resonate with him the way somebody from his generation, or era would. Out of the bunch, Messier is the strongest. He won a title in the '90s and his situation could mirror Lebron's future. Messier was a star for another team and came to NY, ended a long championship drought, became a legend, and completely trumped his past on the Oilers.

sebstar wrote:

TMS wrote:i think Jeter got it right. you shouldn't have to sell anyone on winning in NY... it's a given... just look at the ticker tape parades you get down the Canyon of Heroes when you win in NY compared

Its not about selling him on NY...this is a different city than any other in the world. A different collective heart beat, energy, even dysfunction. There are extreme positives and negatives. Jeter is the king of this city, or at least has been in recent times. His voice and opinion would carry a lot of weight.

i don't think Jeter could possibly say anything to Lebron that he doesn't already know... Lebron sees the way NY fans appreciate Derek Jeter... he is an avid Yankee fan, he knows what it was like for the Yankees to win a title in NY... if he still doesn't know whether or not he wants to come to NY it will have nothing to do with celebrities getting together to make a We Are the World video in his honor... it will have everything to do with the team that DW will be able to put around him that will influence his decision at this point.

sebstar wrote:I agree, C2D...they just using the wrong cats. Blowing dustballs off of "celebrities" that havent meant anything since the running man and watching Seinfeld were still the things to do.

But these are Knicks fan celebrities. Who cares if we got Oprah or Brad Pitt? These people don't know jack about ball. The people we're sending do. They're avid fans of the Knicks. We're missing a few more people though but I'm sure they'll eventually join. Unfortunately we don't have the Lakers bandwagon star power of Nicholson, Eddie Murphy, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, etc.

But these are Knicks fan celebrities. Who cares if we got Oprah or Brad Pitt? These people don't know jack about ball. The people we're sending do. They're avid fans of the Knicks. We're missing a few more people though but I'm sure they'll eventually join. Unfortunately we don't have the Lakers bandwagon star power of Nicholson, Eddie Murphy, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, etc.

If thats the best we can do, then why do it? Lebron is not going to be swayed by an impassioned plea from Boomer Esiason and Alec Baldwin. I guarantee you. Might as well have that Guardian Angel dip get in on it.

If we're going to do it, do it right.

sebstar wrote:

TMS wrote:

sebstar wrote:

TMS wrote:i think Jeter got it right. you shouldn't have to sell anyone on winning in NY... it's a given... just look at the ticker tape parades you get down the Canyon of Heroes when you win in NY compared

Its not about selling him on NY...this is a different city than any other in the world. A different collective heart beat, energy, even dysfunction. There are extreme positives and negatives. Jeter is the king of this city, or at least has been in recent times. His voice and opinion would carry a lot of weight.

i don't think Jeter could possibly say anything to Lebron that he doesn't already know... Lebron sees the way NY fans appreciate Derek Jeter... he is an avid Yankee fan, he knows what it was like for the Yankees to win a title in NY... if he still doesn't know whether or not he wants to come to NY it will have nothing to do with celebrities getting together to make a We Are the World video in his honor... it will have everything to do with the team that DW will be able to put around him that will influence his decision at this point.

Remember, Lebron is a 25 y/o cat that has pretty much lived in a Ohio housed cocoon during his formulative years and a Nike housed cocoon during his professional career. I dont think he is worldly or even savvy in much outside of b-ball and the Lebron brand. NY prolly intimidates him. This aint Cleveland.

Jeter can be real with him. Like I said, he knows this city --- highs and lows. Lebron does not.

But more so, Jeter carries a stature and presence to him. Jeter saying the same thing as another cat means more. If anything, Jeter's words could confirm or deny what Lebron is thinking.

i dunno about that... Derek Jeter grew up in Kalamazoo, Michigan... what did he know about NY before he got here? nothing really other than the mystique & legacy of past Yankee greats... Lebron knows all about the Yankees, but that's got nothing to do with the Knicks... i'm sure being the big star that he is, Lebron's been around to all the major cities & knows what NY is all about at this point... like i said i think we should be focusing more on the type of team DW will be able to put around him, which will impact his decision much more than anything Derek Jeter could possibly say at this point.