fishmike wrote:Its silly to speculate. Most around here would say the best possible scenario would be to sign two star max FAs. Say we sign Lebron and Bosh. Then Lebron gets hurt and has 3 ankle surguries over the next 4 years and never really gets healthy. Then we are left with Bosh who puts up geat numbers but isnt a leader and misses a fair share of games also because he gets banged up quite easily. Eventually the NY media wears him down and he quits on the team and coach.

Thats what happened to Orlando. Was there a more up and coming player then TMac? How many players were better then Grant Hill? He was an EASY top 5 player in the league.

The best laid plans can blow up, and the dumbest teams can be the luckiest.

I think people here would be pretty jaded if we traded Curry for OK4, resigned Lee, gave Joe Johnson big money and signed Mike Miller to play PG, but who knows? Maybe that team gels bigtime and goes to the finals. You just dont know.

IDEALLY you want Lebron and some help up front. But there are a lot of other possibilities that might be pretty solid also.

KG was a great player who hadnt won and was a poor playoff performer. Ray Allen was a skinnier Allan Houston who never got hurt. Everyone figured those two with Pierce would be a good playoff team but did anyone think they would be winning 2 titles? 2 years ago Rondo was the weak link. Now he's the motor.

Problem is Knick fans lack the patience to let anything good happen. We could bring in Joe Johnson and Amare and if that team struggle at first Knick fans will be calling for the coach to be fired by the holidays and those guys to be traded by mid Jan. Briggs will be posted Jordan Hill's daily stat lines and TMS will have hit 40k posts saying I told you so, but forgetting what he told us.

Its silly.

pretty cheap for you to be calling certain posters out... thought you were better than that.

Pharzeone wrote:TMS, at least he didn't say if Walsh was Asian you wouldn't have a problem with any of his moves.

I thought Walsh was Asian.

fishmike wrote:

TMS wrote:
pretty cheap for you to be calling certain posters out... thought you were better than that.

fixed. douche

Nobody will ever crack that code.

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:Worst possible scenario to me is resigning David Lee and signing Joe Johnson. We're still a 35 win team.

so adding a 6'7 SG and a 4 time all star who gives you 22/5/5 night has zero impact on your win total? Want to tell me hows that? I mean I dont want to give Johnson huge money either but saying it has zero impact is silly.

I gave Joe Johnson a 6 game impact Fish. We won 29 last season. Adding Johnson adds about 5-6 wins imo. Yeah, Danilo Gallinari and co. can improve but we would still be a very poor defensive and undersized team. How much better do you think we'd be with Johnson?

Seems a little light. I would say 10 wins based on which players would be getting less minutes because of JJ. But that being said, it's an utter disaster and puts us in no mans land.

Solace wrote:

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:Worst possible scenario to me is resigning David Lee and signing Joe Johnson. We're still a 35 win team.

so adding a 6'7 SG and a 4 time all star who gives you 22/5/5 night has zero impact on your win total? Want to tell me hows that? I mean I dont want to give Johnson huge money either but saying it has zero impact is silly.

I gave Joe Johnson a 6 game impact Fish. We won 29 last season. Adding Johnson adds about 5-6 wins imo. Yeah, Danilo Gallinari and co. can improve but we would still be a very poor defensive and undersized team. How much better do you think we'd be with Johnson?

Seems a little light. I would say 10 wins based on which players would be getting less minutes because of JJ. But that being said, it's an utter disaster and puts us in no mans land.

What about adding Joe Johnson and Bosh? I'd say that puts us in 45-50 win territory, with the ability to trade Curry's contract for something like Biedrins.

Solace wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Solace wrote:

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:Worst possible scenario to me is resigning David Lee and signing Joe Johnson. We're still a 35 win team.

so adding a 6'7 SG and a 4 time all star who gives you 22/5/5 night has zero impact on your win total? Want to tell me hows that? I mean I dont want to give Johnson huge money either but saying it has zero impact is silly.

I gave Joe Johnson a 6 game impact Fish. We won 29 last season. Adding Johnson adds about 5-6 wins imo. Yeah, Danilo Gallinari and co. can improve but we would still be a very poor defensive and undersized team. How much better do you think we'd be with Johnson?

Seems a little light. I would say 10 wins based on which players would be getting less minutes because of JJ. But that being said, it's an utter disaster and puts us in no mans land.

What about adding Joe Johnson and Bosh? I'd say that puts us in 45-50 win territory, with the ability to trade Curry's contract for something like Biedrins.

I think that's about right. It's a solid team with second round potential... but not a real title contender.

Well, if Gallo continues to develop and we get a defensive coach in here...

sidsanders wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Solace wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Solace wrote:

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

iSergio wrote:Worst possible scenario to me is resigning David Lee and signing Joe Johnson. We're still a 35 win team.

so adding a 6'7 SG and a 4 time all star who gives you 22/5/5 night has zero impact on your win total? Want to tell me hows that? I mean I dont want to give Johnson huge money either but saying it has zero impact is silly.

I gave Joe Johnson a 6 game impact Fish. We won 29 last season. Adding Johnson adds about 5-6 wins imo. Yeah, Danilo Gallinari and co. can improve but we would still be a very poor defensive and undersized team. How much better do you think we'd be with Johnson?

Seems a little light. I would say 10 wins based on which players would be getting less minutes because of JJ. But that being said, it's an utter disaster and puts us in no mans land.

What about adding Joe Johnson and Bosh? I'd say that puts us in 45-50 win territory, with the ability to trade Curry's contract for something like Biedrins.

I think that's about right. It's a solid team with second round potential... but not a real title contender.

Well, if Gallo continues to develop and we get a defensive coach in here...

i sure hope the FO does nothing rather then sign long term guys who wont lead to a title type of team. however if they are making this a multi season investment, that makes the FO job quite difficult on the FA path cuz you are gonna have another off season of hoping your prime targets wanna sign with you.

Yeah. You don't win titles without superstars. I severely doubt Gallo will ever be a top 5 player and we would then be another 5+ years away from another opportunity with this much cap room. We should use it properly or not use it. I'd rather lose all 82 games than cap out at 45.