I've heard Kareem's name tossed around lately too. If Doc Rivers gets taken before we get him, I wouldn't mind giving Kareem a shot at it. I'd also give Mark Jackson a chance. Even John Starks. Someone with some fire and passion.

Yelling and screaming with passion and fire does not make for a qualified leader. You don't just give the keys to a multimillion dollar business becasue they got spunk. What is Starks doing right now? Pro, College, High School? He had some minor summer team, big deal. Mark Jackson perhaps one day.

Low on my list is Ewing, and I would pick him over any of the above if you must get one of those "glory name" starphucher coaches to sell seats.

The guy you want is not just a brand name like Doc Rivers, but one whom will install the right system for this group of players.

I can't really recommend one. That is the GM's job to make that correct match.


Riles quit on us once. I doubt he's sell his 7% of the Heat to coach the knicks.

How about P.J. Carlesimo? (j/k)

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I'd also give Mark Jackson a chance. Even John Starks. Someone with some fire and passion.

I got fire hardcore and I got passion like you have never seen before. I bet you that if I was coaching the knicks would have a better record.

Well go take that resume over to Isiah Thomas! You better win too, or I'll go to MSG booing you too!!

...So I've heard!?

Mike F. know's how to control the flow of the game. Feel bad for Chaney though. ... Ok. Feel better about it.

some of these names bouncing around are killing me. Fratello is a good defense and fundamentals guy. Who knows... Hubbie Browns been doing well in Memphis, so anything can happen. I just remember Fratellos 82 ppg Cle offense he ran where he made things so slow they were always going to be in the game because neither team broke 80 points.

I hope sees Steph, Hou, Penny, Frank and KVH and realizes an uptempo game best suits his personel.

I would have preferred to just have Malone as an interm coach and get Doc Rivers over the summer.

Posted by playa2:

Zeke moved to fast on the last trade and moved to slow for the coaches removal. This guy as a gm is still a puppet to me.

How did he move too fast? How long do you wait when you have a chance to add Penny and this guy to your team?
-2002-03 All-NBA Third Team
-Two-time NBA All-Star (2001, '03)
-Along with Oscar Robertson, is the only player in NBA history with career averages of 20 points (20.5) and 8.0 assists (8.2) and Robertson had 25.7 ppg, 9.5 apg
-Was the only player in the NBA ranked in top 12 in points (12, 22.3) and assists (4th, 8.1) in 2002-03
-With his 22.3 points average in 2002-03 he is the the first Suns player with back-to-back 20-point seasons since Charles Barkley (23.2 in 1995-96, 23.0 in 1994-95)
-Made his second All-Star appearance in 2003 and had four points and six assists in 15 minutes
-Finished his first season with Phoenix and became the first Sun to average 20 points in a season since 1996-97 when Kevin Johnson had 20.2 points
-Scored 12 points in the 2001 All-Star Game, including two three-pointers in the final 53 seconds as the East overcame a 21-point deficit
-Scoring average increased in each of his first five NBA seasons and his shooting percentage also increased in his first six seasons
-Was the only player to rank in the top 10 in points (23.9, 10th) and assists (7.6, 8th) in 2000-01
-Scored career-high 50 points vs. Lakers on Feb. 13, 2001 shooting 17-29 from the field, including 4-8 from three-point range, along with 12 assists in 47 minutes
-Posted first career triple-double with 33 points, 12 assists and a career-high 11 rebounds vs. Chicago on Jan. 20, 2001
-Named NBA Player of the Week for Nov. 6- Nov. 12, 2000 after averaging 34.7 points and 9.0 assists
1999-2000 All-NBA Third Team
-Along with the Sonics' Gary Payton, was the only NBA player to rank in the top 15 in points and assists in 1999-2000 (fifth with 22.2 points, 13th with 8.4 assists) and the top 10 in points and assists in 1998-99 (eighth with 21.3 points, third with 8.9 assists)
-Posted a team-high 26 points and a career-high 20 assists in a 120-98 victory over the Indiana Pacers on April 25, 1999
-Hit a Timberwolves franchise record eight three-pointers in 11 attempts, totaling a game-high 35 points, seven assists and four rebounds, against Seattle on Dec. 23, 1997
-Has appeared in 14 NBA Playoff games, averaging 18.9 points, 6.8 assists, 3.7 rebounds and 1.5 steals per game
-Named to the 1996-97 NBA All-Rookie First Team after leading all rookies with 7.8 assists a game
Selected to play in the Schick Rookie Game during the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend in Cleveland but did not play due to a deep right thigh bruise
-Named NBA Rookie of the Month for January 1997, averaging 16.9 points, 8.1 assists and 1.10 steals per game
-Named Third Team All-America by the AP after his first and only season at Georgia Tech
-Was named to the Atlantic Coast Conference First Team and ACC Rookie of the Year

I love his game , but what has been his knock is just that individual performance, never past the 1st rd of playoffs as a leader of a team. I hope that all changes but who knows. He will get his stats , but will the knicks team do well and win?

Posted by fishmike:

only time will tell.. .but he's 26 and unlike KVH he continues to get better every year.

Also, remember JKidd gets too much credit for the NJ turnaround. Kidd had also NEVER led a team past round one and was also traded twice.

When Steph was in NJ Kmart was a rookie and was hurt most of that year. No Collins, no RJefferson, no Todd Mac, Bryon Scott was a rookie coach, Kittles was always hurt, KVH missed a lot of time. The Nets were 5-15 in the 20 games Todd Mac missed in Kidds first year...

The idea that Kidd did something Marbury couldnt is just silly. Everything fell into place for the Nets the year Kidd came over.

Kidd is a better team pg, but Marbury is a better one on one player. Also you can see after only a couple games as Steph gets comfy he DOESNT dominate the ball... he creates TONS of open shots for others.

Just patient. Steph has a good cast around him thats only going to get better... I dont know about titles but some trips to the finals and a 50 win team for the next (many) years isnt too high an expectation.

fishmike, you are all over the forums these days.

I agree. Look at Jordan in his younger years. Stats and individual performance. Once a good coach and the right players around him settled, the playoff wins came. Marb may be no Mike, but the situation could be similar.