sidsanders wrote:

Nalod wrote:SOme say guys like Phil Jax are over rated becasue of their rosters (like teams win without?), but when a good coach has a bad roster ts his fault.

Like Fishmike said, we had a host of good coaches who have had good careers but not with a starphuched roster as we have had.

Even guys like Rondo could not have developed without the support of 3 HOF's in the line up.

Playing rookies later in the season and they start to do well is a sign of development. Y'all assume they were ready to go and the big bad MDA kept them down?

MDA never lost his team. Blowouts were few and the team stayed in the game most of the time.

really? mr collins says hello... the reason some folks rag on mike is cuz this team was going nowhere and playing the rooks probably would have made the record worse, yet the young guys would have been exposed to games all year. rather have them take lumps at the start then at the end when many of the games had no value to the knicks or whoever they were playing. i really cant see how dnp-cds or garbage mins early in the season helped anyone.

You have to look at things in context. When MDA 1st pulled the rooks from the rotation and went with the vets more, the teams started playing much better and so he stayed with them for a long while until the vets stopped producing. Then he started working the rooks back in. I can understand some fans being frustrated and wanting to see the kids more, but that doesn't make MDA a bad coach. TONS of coaches aren't big on rooks. That doesn't mean that he just ignored them all year. He and his staff were working with the kids since before the season started and for every player just coming in, the bulk of their learning work comes in practice and the games are where they show what they've learned, not the other way around. Some coaches have gone on record as saying they love practice more than the games. This is the essence of coaching. It's why Phil Jax mostly just sits there and let's his players play. He did most of his work in practice and the results show on the court.

MDA really didn't have a team that was fully committed to him outside of just a small group. Hopefully that kind of attitude will change with a team full of players at the beginning of their contracts here that are hungry to win as opposed to a bunch of guys with one foot out the door already.

nixluva wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Nalod wrote:SOme say guys like Phil Jax are over rated becasue of their rosters (like teams win without?), but when a good coach has a bad roster ts his fault.

Like Fishmike said, we had a host of good coaches who have had good careers but not with a starphuched roster as we have had.

Even guys like Rondo could not have developed without the support of 3 HOF's in the line up.

Playing rookies later in the season and they start to do well is a sign of development. Y'all assume they were ready to go and the big bad MDA kept them down?

MDA never lost his team. Blowouts were few and the team stayed in the game most of the time.

really? mr collins says hello... the reason some folks rag on mike is cuz this team was going nowhere and playing the rooks probably would have made the record worse, yet the young guys would have been exposed to games all year. rather have them take lumps at the start then at the end when many of the games had no value to the knicks or whoever they were playing. i really cant see how dnp-cds or garbage mins early in the season helped anyone.

You have to look at things in context. When MDA 1st pulled the rooks from the rotation and went with the vets more, the teams started playing much better and so he stayed with them for a long while until the vets stopped producing. Then he started working the rooks back in. I can understand some fans being frustrated and wanting to see the kids more, but that doesn't make MDA a bad coach. TONS of coaches aren't big on rooks. That doesn't mean that he just ignored them all year. He and his staff were working with the kids since before the season started and for every player just coming in, the bulk of their learning work comes in practice and the games are where they show what they've learned, not the other way around. Some coaches have gone on record as saying they love practice more than the games. This is the essence of coaching. It's why Phil Jax mostly just sits there and let's his players play. He did most of his work in practice and the results show on the court.

MDA really didn't have a team that was fully committed to him outside of just a small group. Hopefully that kind of attitude will change with a team full of players at the beginning of their contracts here that are hungry to win as opposed to a bunch of guys with one foot out the door already.

what was the point of trying to win with the team as it was built? it was clear to me even if the vets kept the mins, the team was going nowhere (i predicted 30 wins before the season started). what other coaches do doesnt help the knicks young guys get ready for next year. this was something mike controlled and he did what he did. nothing beats game exposure... i would much rather see gallo et all, play as a unit and struggle against real talent of other teams then play against the remaining knick scrubs in practice. going up against david lee (not a scrub, though his d is lacking) and duhon all day isnt gonna prepare them for going up against bos or orl.

knicks1248 wrote:Gallo played 25 games last year, came in this year and was inserted into the starting line up, How much experience did he have.

thats quite diff. he was hurt.

And then they promptly quit on him.

We've had a lot of good coaches - and they've struggled to win. Yes, the roster sucks and has sucked.

But how about a coach get his players to try? Try things like Defense? Why was our best defense a gimmick?

We don't have the best defenders, but they say defense is about effort.

Why does every wing defender go under a screen or switch? I mean, I watched guys switch when they really didn't have to.

Look, the vets quit this year, and so did the coach.

If he can land us Lebron & Bosh? I'm ok with that.

But when we march out a very limited roster next year after whiffing on the big names, MDA better get real with the situation, rethink his whole 'holier than thou' concept of his defensive strategy, philosophy and ability, and get some real effort out of everyone on his roster, not just his pets.

knicks1248 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Gallo played 25 games last year, came in this year and was inserted into the starting line up, How much experience did he have.

One minute people say this season was more so gallo's rookie year (base on his injured 1st season), then when you bring up the fact, that if gallo was essentially playing in his rookie year, why was in the starting line up if MDA doesn't play rookies.

I don't know what coaches look for in practice, especially with rookies, but I find it hard to believe a coach is going to deliberately not play a rookie cause he can really play.

its the same logic to how bender got time, and duhon continued to play when it was clear he shouldnt. there is no logic (to us anyway).