Papabear wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:Oakley is an idiot he needs a PR person following him 24/7 he talks nonsense all the time. As far a Clyde and Monroe they are taken care of Clyde does TV and Monroe does radio I believe. Patrick Ewing always wanted out and he got his wish and now regrets his decision to leave the Knicks. They were the only team to give his son a shot. The Knicks have loyalty to their ex players just look at Starks and H20 they are a part of the organization. Look at Herb Williams how he has a job to this date no one knows. People should not be listening to Oakley he is a disgruntled retard. As far as Nate he is a talented player but he is an asz clown. Last year he was a FA and not one team made an offer to him and the Knicks to boot gave him a very nice contract for a player no other team made an offer for. Celtic sat his azz on the bench and watched him not collect the extra million he would have gotten. And he is talking smack about the Knicks he is Nate the ungrateful the Knicks put up with his BS. He has no idea what the Knicks did for him as far as I'm concerned he is more like a spurned lover who can't get the Knicks off his mind.

Some folks around here think charlse-dumb as a OAK tree, should be part of the knicks coaching staff..Thats like picturing Barkley as a HEAD COACH or a coach of any magnitude.

Nate, I love the little guys energy, but your a 6/7th man on a bad team, 10th on a good one. He paid his dues (LMAO) he made no one better around him, and the team had a better record with out him..No little BUDDY the knicks PAID you bills.

I agree with you V..I would love to have EWING back, but this is not a LEAD by example job (being a head coach) his non vocal leadership was so evident when he played, and if thats your personality then thats cool, but don't think your owed something just because, PAY YOUR DUES as an assistant, "and show us what you got" (remember that PUBLIC ENEMY SONG) Teach Dewight how to do something more then Dunk and Block f***g basketball..

Besides, some players aren't fit to do certain jobs, coaching, analyst, commentating..

Papabear Says

I can't wait till Nate get his ring. The only way we will get one is to go to the jewlry shop and buy a ring. Go Nate, Go Hill you got a bad break in New York.

Isn't that what Nate did. Go to the Jewelry shop he should be grateful the Knicks at least did that for him.

sebstar wrote:Vmart,

I'm not blaming Nate's behavior on D'Antoni, but Nate is 25 years old and D'Antoni is a grown authority figure. That said, I honestly dont know who the immature, 25 year old is between the two.

What exactly warranted Nate being benched for 13 games straight games like he was some sort of pariah? Because Nate shot at his own basket during a time out? Stupid, but was it worth all that?

Okay, D'Antoni thought that his relationship with Nate was untenable and he wanted him on the first thing smoking. Cool. Go to Walsh and tell him that he needs to look for a deal to get Nate out of here because he has no future with the Knicks. All the while, maintain a professional front and try to get the most out of the kid while he is still a member of the organization.

But naw, D'Antoni couldnt resist completely embarrassing Nate and making him the scapegoat for all the Knicks ills. It was completely pathetic and childish the way D'Antoni handled Nate and I have no respect for it.

try looking at our record with out n8..

Knicks aren't pissing these guys off, they don't need to. Ewing/Oakley/Nate are doing such a masterful job of pissing theselves off, they need no help from us.

Shut yer Trap Oak! Don't mess with the Knicks Oak! You might not be so lucky next time! Woof!!

Nalod wrote:Ewing has not even gotten an interview for head coach job. Starks was given a minor league gig a few years ago and proved brain dead. What has oak done outside to warrant a job for a team?

What has EWing really done as an assistant? Coached Yao Ming? Im sure he was destined to be a good player under a myriad of coach's. Dwight Howard's progress might be questioned as he has not proven to be fluid on the offensive end.

And no other team is showing any interst in him for the 5 head coaching vacancies thus far.

I agree with Oak that the team was more flawed than one might think and I do believe he is right regarding Ewing. Ewing took a lot of heat but its always "Ewing was not supported with enough talent". Maybe Oak is saying that Ewing was a selfish prick and not very coachable at times.

Also I agree when he said "players did not make good decisions" at times. They were notorious for bone head blunders and technicals. This is on Riles and I agree with him.

Once the knicks are successful they won't throw free courtside tickets at the likes of Oak anymore.

Here what u saying
but I dont think for 1sec Oak would imply that about NYK great P.Ewing.

Sure both of these players soured on Knicks management later and some remarks were slightly against
NY improving in free agency. However I dont feel we can take Knicks lame management out of the big
picture.

All in all Ewing a mainstain here privately and publicly expresssed a want to come back to NY in
some role small OR bigger whatever to contribute to Knicks plans. Ewing never demanded a coaching
gig OR did he ever state he automatically should be given a job.

Ewing bleeds Knick blue as many other Knicks.
Small parts of tasks given to Knicks ex' like Starks and Allan Houston was just a role those guys
accepted good Or not. I dont believe Knicks brass ever approached some of most more important Knicks
and that ticked off some of them.

I dont agree with all comments (ex players) but I dont 100% blame them either.
You see alot of teams bringing back into fold few ex players and folks linked to their past
and I dont mean Clyde Frazier or Earl Monroe on mike calling Knicks games losing games.

Knicks mgmt. rather spend $$$ on Larry Brown, L.Wilkens now MDA without giving all these coaches
fair shake. They say like Pat Riley JVGundy blew off Knicks but he had reasons.

Something stale at Garden. Cannot be ignored.
Even the mighty hall of famer Zeke Thomas got into trouble and look where it set this organization.
5 yrs of losing without a plan then and sex lawsuit case both MGS brass, Zeke and Dolan laughed at
believing they were going to win. Arrogance.
Fools!

loweyecue wrote:And you thought 5 years with Cap'n Zeke was bad? You think Ewing has a plan? If anything it will get worse if we hire people like Ewing to be head coach. There is avery good reason we spend money on LB and MDA they are proven winning coaches. I am glad we don't have Ewing and or Mark Jax as our coach.