AnubisADL wrote:These guys arent taking paycuts to play with each other. At the end of the day it comes down to who is willing to pay them most years.

You take that 6th year way too seriously. It's not that big of a deal. I know it's an extra year of salary but most of the time it's a 'player option' year anyway so chances are the player will opt out. I don't see Chris Bosh signing with one team over another just because he'll get that extra 6th year.

iSergio wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:These guys arent taking paycuts to play with each other. At the end of the day it comes down to who is willing to pay them most years.

You take that 6th year way too seriously. It's not that big of a deal. I know it's an extra year of salary but most of the time it's a 'player option' year anyway so chances are the player will opt out. I don't see Chris Bosh signing with one team over another just because he'll get that extra 6th year.

In 2003 Jermaine O'neal signed a 6 yr deal for almost 130 million dollars. Fast Forward to the present day do you think anyone in their right mind would have paid him close to 20 million dollars this past year with all his injuries. Signing a 5 year deal would have cost him 5-10 million dollars. Bosh is not an Iron man and he wears a knee brace. Do you think Michael Redd is going to get close to his 18 million dollar salary after next season?

Wade, Amare, and Johnson will all be 33 or older at the end of a 5 yr deal. Do you seriously see any of those guys getting max deals or anything close to the max at that age? Come on now.

Of course you dont think the 6th year is important because it isnt your money.

AnubisADL wrote:

djsunyc wrote:bosh will be 31 and is playing with a massive knee brace.

look at jermaine o'neal. he just made $20+ mil this season. let's say he signed a deal for 1 year less, is there any way in hell he would've gotten $20 mil?

You read my mind.

i did...and the thoughts you had about nalod + marv and a tube of ben gay almost made me call the cops.

AnubisADL wrote:

iSergio wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:These guys arent taking paycuts to play with each other. At the end of the day it comes down to who is willing to pay them most years.

You take that 6th year way too seriously. It's not that big of a deal. I know it's an extra year of salary but most of the time it's a 'player option' year anyway so chances are the player will opt out. I don't see Chris Bosh signing with one team over another just because he'll get that extra 6th year.

In 2003 Jermaine O'neal signed a 6 yr deal for almost 130 million dollars. Fast Forward to the present day do you think anyone in their right mind would have paid him close to 20 million dollars this past year with all his injuries. Signing a 5 year deal would have cost him 5-10 million dollars. Bosh is not an Iron man and he wears a knee brace. Do you think Michael Redd is going to get close to his 18 million dollar salary after next season?

Wade, Amare, and Johnson will all be 33 or older at the end of a 5 yr deal. Do you seriously see any of those guys getting max deals or anything close to the max at that age? Come on now.

Of course you dont think the 6th year is important because it isnt your money.

Thats why i think they'll sign another 3 year deal with player options

knicks1248 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

iSergio wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:These guys arent taking paycuts to play with each other. At the end of the day it comes down to who is willing to pay them most years.

You take that 6th year way too seriously. It's not that big of a deal. I know it's an extra year of salary but most of the time it's a 'player option' year anyway so chances are the player will opt out. I don't see Chris Bosh signing with one team over another just because he'll get that extra 6th year.

In 2003 Jermaine O'neal signed a 6 yr deal for almost 130 million dollars. Fast Forward to the present day do you think anyone in their right mind would have paid him close to 20 million dollars this past year with all his injuries. Signing a 5 year deal would have cost him 5-10 million dollars. Bosh is not an Iron man and he wears a knee brace. Do you think Michael Redd is going to get close to his 18 million dollar salary after next season?

Wade, Amare, and Johnson will all be 33 or older at the end of a 5 yr deal. Do you seriously see any of those guys getting max deals or anything close to the max at that age? Come on now.

Of course you dont think the 6th year is important because it isnt your money.

Thats why i think they'll sign another 3 year deal with player options

I don't think there is anyway that happens, with the lockout destined to occur next Summer. The owners are hellbent on cutting the contracts short, and the players know it, so there's no way they are going to give up on their last couple of years just so they can be free agents at the same time again down the road. Yet, as fishmike said, this is a party league, so I wouldn't put anything past the players. There's no way the agents allow it though, anyway.

Knicks1248 said it exactly right. This just didn't happen in the past, but i'll take it further that it doesn't even occur NOW, in just about every other sport. Where does it happen? Did Mark Texiera, CC Sabbathia and AJ Burnett have a summet? Is Carl Crawford and whoever else going to have a summet next winter? NO! lol This is boarderline ridiculous. You just don't do what other players do just to be free agents at the same time. You do what's best for you. ESPECIALLY WADE with his off the court issues he's got going on!If I were him, I'd just say "Shut the f' up a'holes. I'm taking my max six years and that's all she wrote.

I don't really get it either.

Owners usually have the power but in FA the players have a choice. If they want to play together they can. What's the diff between this and say Boston where the players try to convince each other to accept a deal to play together in Boston?

Even in football players may call a guy to try and convince him to come to his team. This is just a higher level of that kind of thing.

Pharzeone wrote:Wade: Yo, what's up fellas. I didn't order yet. Yo Bron, keep ya head up. Don't worry about it. That fool ain't worth it.
LBJ: Hmm...
Bosh: Do they validate here?
<everybody shakes their heads>
Bosh: Damn.
Wade: What's up J. You still sweating about your money. Don't worry...you'll get yours. These guys all have short memories. But damn that was bad.
JJ: Man... I don't know what happened.
Wade:Uh..huh. Ya watching the Mamba. Say what you want. That ninja can still do his thing. Alright down to business.
LBJ: Damn... It's crazy right now. They have me going everywhere.
Wade:<snickering>Yeah, some fool on Money News said that you could even go to China if the money was right. I said that ninja better take Yao with his ass.
LBJ: Just crazy.
JJ: I...I just don't know..
Wade:Er....yeah. Hold that thought. Y'all remember to keep bringing up NY. They are the key to it all. F**k, Amare should be here too.
Bosh: Are we going to split the bill? Because all I'm getting is soup anyway.
<everybody shakes their head>