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CrushAlot
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5/21/2010  11:39 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:I like Varnado
forget his low offensive skills

MDA needs to man up

sometimes you need to fill a need with a player whom is good at 1 or 2 things.
Offense of some game he can develop

All in all NY needs shotblocking desperately and need to establish an identity
with few players whom do 1-2 things really good. It makes a difference.

Varnado is reasonable at the pick and roll and a tremendous shot blocker so he might have shot playing for D'Antoni.
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5/22/2010  8:12 AM
This is from an ESPN Insider article by John Hollinger...he has Marcus Blakely as 22nd in terms of "most pro potential"...I have included the list and a link to the article.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-100521

1 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky 16.14
2. Evan Turner Ohio State 14.79
3. John Wall Kentucky 14.68
4. Greg Monroe Georgetown 14.39
5. Derrick Favors Georgia Tech 13.98
6. Xavier Henry Kansas 13.52
7. Luke Babbitt Nevada 13.35
8. Al-Farouq Aminu Wake Forest 13.30
9. Wes Johnson Syracuse 13.03
10. Greivis Vasquez Maryland 12.97
11. Sylven Landesberg Virginia 12.52
12. Omar Samhan Saint Mary's 12.47
13. Damion James Texas 12.44
14. Daniel Orton Kentucky 12.15
15. James Anderson Oklahoma State 11.98
16. Paul George Fresno State 11.87
17. Gordon Hayward Butler 11.87
18. Manny Harris Michigan 11.80
19. Jeff Foote Cornell 11.71
20. Darington Hobson New Mexico 11.69
21. Eric Bledsoe Kentucky 11.66
22. Marqus Blakely Vermont 11.58
23. Luke Harangody Notre Dame 11.37
24. Jordan Crawford Xavier 11.32
25. Da'Sean Butler West Virginia 11.26
26. Jon Scheyer Duke 11.20
27. Devin Ebanks West Virginia 11.16
28. Tiny Gallon Oklahoma 11.13
29. Quincy Pondexter Washington 11.08
30. Larry Sanders VCU 11.07
31. Armon Johnson Nevada 10.98
32. Brian Zoubek Duke 10.96
33. Aubrey Coleman Houston 10.91
34. Jeremy Lin Harvard 10.87
35. Mikhail Torrance Alabama 10.84
36 Cole Aldrich Kansas 10.83
37 Patrick Patterson Kentucky 10.79
40 Willie Warren Oklahoma 10.71
45 Avery Bradley Texas 10.42
50 Ekpe Udoh Baylor 10.03
54 Ed Davis North Carolina 9.88
60 Terrico White Mississippi 9.68
62 Hassan Whiteside Marshall 9.65
65 Craig Brackins Iowa State 9.56
68 Solomon Alabi Florida State 9.52
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5/22/2010  11:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/22/2010  11:32 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Redcru wrote:
What this really doesn't show is that he is also one of the best passers in the league....though you may remember him winning the College Slam Dunk competition.

Projected to be a bubble 2nd rounder...the Knicks could do a lot worse than checking Marcus out...

That's my pick for 39

Redcru--how about this. Elite level defender and transition player who possesses top-level NBA athletic ability and solid basketball IQ. Great size speed and strength with very long arms. Opportunistic scorer excellent rebounder and passer from the wing slot. Needs to develop jumpshot range pass 14 feet. Thrived against top level competition and was one of the main cog's on the championship Portsmouth team where he lead the mini league in rebounding per minute played.

I'm liking what I read on this guy. would want to see him in workouts. After the measurements and the combine you should come away with at least some ideas to consider and he is one

The guy passes the eye test. I wrote a post comparing him to Gerald Wilkins a couple of months ago. Gerald was not a jump shooter when he came in either but was one heckuva 2nd round pick. This guy is going to get out on the break and score some easy points play some tough D and rebound the ball of the bench.

What position do you guys think he can play. Almost 6'5" barefoot- so he plays at 6'6." Great wingspan. Was identified as a SF/PF on DraftExpress, but I can't see him being an NBA 4, even with his wingspan.

Can he play at the 2 or 3 in the NBA? Does he have the lateral movement to play D against some PGs? Has anyone seen his jump shot form? Can he develop a midrange shot? Regarding his BB IQ, which is supposedly high, I saw him interviewed after a game and he is a well spoken kid who clearly has an understanding of the game.

I would love to have this kind of intangibles player on the team. You have to think that he did not need to work on a J because of his athletic ability, but hopefully it is something he is working on. Ironically, though, if he starts showing a J at his tryouts, he will not be available with our 2nd Rnd picks.

Getting him and a big who can block some shots with our 2 picks would be fine with me. Wonder what MDA and Donnie are thinking on this topic?

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5/22/2010  11:56 AM
Redcru wrote:This is from an ESPN Insider article by John Hollinger...he has Marcus Blakely as 22nd in terms of "most pro potential"...I have included the list and a link to the article.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-100521

1 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky 16.14
2. Evan Turner Ohio State 14.79
3. John Wall Kentucky 14.68
4. Greg Monroe Georgetown 14.39
5. Derrick Favors Georgia Tech 13.98
6. Xavier Henry Kansas 13.52
7. Luke Babbitt Nevada 13.35
8. Al-Farouq Aminu Wake Forest 13.30
9. Wes Johnson Syracuse 13.03
10. Greivis Vasquez Maryland 12.97
11. Sylven Landesberg Virginia 12.52
12. Omar Samhan Saint Mary's 12.47
13. Damion James Texas 12.44
14. Daniel Orton Kentucky 12.15
15. James Anderson Oklahoma State 11.98
16. Paul George Fresno State 11.87
17. Gordon Hayward Butler 11.87
18. Manny Harris Michigan 11.80
19. Jeff Foote Cornell 11.71
20. Darington Hobson New Mexico 11.69
21. Eric Bledsoe Kentucky 11.66
22. Marqus Blakely Vermont 11.58
23. Luke Harangody Notre Dame 11.37
24. Jordan Crawford Xavier 11.32
25. Da'Sean Butler West Virginia 11.26
26. Jon Scheyer Duke 11.20
27. Devin Ebanks West Virginia 11.16
28. Tiny Gallon Oklahoma 11.13
29. Quincy Pondexter Washington 11.08
30. Larry Sanders VCU 11.07
31. Armon Johnson Nevada 10.98
32. Brian Zoubek Duke 10.96
33. Aubrey Coleman Houston 10.91
34. Jeremy Lin Harvard 10.87
35. Mikhail Torrance Alabama 10.84
36 Cole Aldrich Kansas 10.83
37 Patrick Patterson Kentucky 10.79
40 Willie Warren Oklahoma 10.71
45 Avery Bradley Texas 10.42
50 Ekpe Udoh Baylor 10.03
54 Ed Davis North Carolina 9.88
60 Terrico White Mississippi 9.68
62 Hassan Whiteside Marshall 9.65
65 Craig Brackins Iowa State 9.56
68 Solomon Alabi Florida State 9.52

As I understand it these numbers include a weighted factor that measures growth in statistics over the career of the player. This figure is used to project the players progress. My feeling is that it does not adjust well for the talent level of the players opposition or his teammates. Hence Alabi's low progress rate.

The 'eye test', physical and athletic measurements, workouts..it's still a long way. In the end I still expect Alabi to go in the top 20. Torrance is intriguing statistically. I remember a good overall impression of him from the Old Spice tournament. He played for 3 different coaches and did well showing growth under each. He also is one of those who has that freak wingspan ratio IIRC.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/22/2010  2:26 PM
Living in Vermont I have seen almost all of Blakey's home games and a number of others on tv. He has improved dramatically each year....this year's big two improvements his free throw shooting and passing (again, possibly the best passer I have seen...on the break and out of double teams...an amazing feel for where people are).
He can guard people on the wing...I can't remember (I will look it up) who it was he shut down in Portsmouth...but it was one of the big guns. The review of the game said that "player X" was unable to do anything against NBA type defender Marcus Blakely.
He would be a crowd favorite...I watch guys like Tony Allen get good minutes in the playoffs... I think Blakely will be better than Allen...possibly by a lot.

Obviously I would love to see the Knicks get him...he is working out for the Blazers, Celtics, Rockets, and Warriors...I hope the Knicks add him soon.

Here is a clip from the America East Championship...this was the clincher..and if you watch it through you will see a pretty impressive statline for a championship game.

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5/24/2010  4:17 PM
karpik wrote:We have to go for Dexter Pittman.

We need a big man, right? So, who's bigger than Dex? ;]
Dude is taller than was expected - he's 6'11.5'' with shoes and has tremendous 7'6 wingspan.
He is great rebounder on the offensive glass, has a good hands and above all he's VERY STRONG. Potentially he'd be good defender on Dwight Howard.

The only issue is his stamina but you can't expect that you'll draft perfect player in the 2nd round. I think he can give the Knicks 10-15 productive minutes from the bench as rookie.

dunno but he's got Eddy Curry written all over him to me... doesn't seem like he's in the greatest shape or as a particularly hard worker on the floor when i've watched him play, he's just a big dude.

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