iSergio wrote:fishmike wrote:iSergio wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:iSergio wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:iSergio wrote:Any chance of getting clutch stats in the 4th quarter or the final 5 minutes? Stats are nice but they don't tell you the entire story. Watching David Lee the last 5 years, I think I/we all have a pretty good idea about his game and future potential. Offensively, I don't see him getting better. Defensively, he hasn't improved at all. You also take Bosh over Lee because in the 4th quarter of a close game, you can go to Bosh in the post for a bucket or a foul. You can't do that with Lee. Although these stats make the race close, I still see Bosh over Lee as a major upgrade at both ends of the court. And that extra $5M-$8M is a little overrated imho - who exactly are we targeting? Tyrus Thomas? Mike Miller? Not worth it. If the attempt here Fish is to convince me/us that Lee is a legit 'Robin' and 'Scottie Pippen' for LeBron James, I think you're wasting your time. Lee is just not that caliber of player. Bosh is.
Why don't you see him getting better when he's been getting better every year.
I don't see David Lee getting any better offensively. He's reached his Max, which is pretty good. I don't see him becoming a three-point shooter or a go-to scorer in the post.
You didn't answer my question though. Why? He has gotton better. He's added post moves, he's shooting his shot with more and more conviction every year, and his passing continues to improve. Plus he's adding range to his shot. With those facts in mind, why don't you think he can continue to improve offensively without saying "I just don't see it" or "I just don't"
Well, I don't think David Lee is strong enough or has moves in the post to be a reliable scorer down there. And maybe he does develop into a three-point shooter, I just don't see it. Same with his defense - it never improved.
he already is a reliable scorer down there. So scratch that point. Will Bosh's defense be improving? because its as bad as Lee's. Can you see that?
David Lee is not a reliable post scorer. Tell me a game or two where we went to him in the post and he got us a basket.
And Chris Bosh is 10000000x better defensively than Lee - who is the worst defensive player in basketball by far - doesn't rotate, doesn't alter shots, doesn't take charges, doesn't foul, just useless on D.
Last I checked, David Lee has been developing many moves to get layups in the post. Perhaps you're just watching a different David Lee than I am. And no, Bosh is NOT better than Lee defensively. They both suck. Maybe Bosh gets a little bit more blocked shots, but Lee gets more steals, and neither of them are a presence. It's bad. However, like I said, if we signed Bosh to a max, we'd all expect him to be a great defender, when he really isn't, and therefore, Walsh would be pressured to trade him during a time when he can't be traded. Bosh for the max is < Lee for 10 million.
They aren't that far apart as players.
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5/18/2010 4:53 PM
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