Vmart wrote:I think Chris Weber said it best. Joe Johnson has difficulty creating his own shots. If you watched the games you would see that he would settle for jumpers. His creativity with the ball is lacking. With Jump shooter sometime a a hand in the face is all you need and in the playoffs the intensity goes up and he couldn't handle that intensity. I say Pass on Johnson don't even bother to bring him in not worth the money even if LeBron wants him. Chandler is better IMHO he is more versatile better defensively and more explosive next year Chandler gives you 18-20 points per game.

Joe Johnson has great handle. His issue is he moves like Ron Artest.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:LOL. 24 votes no. What happened? Where did all you haters come from?

What haters? Nobody thought he was worth max unless he was signing with a better guy like LeBron or something.

I would still take Johnson, but not at that figure. $11 million is a more reasonable offer.

there's at least a couple guys on this forum who have already said they wouldn't mind ending up with JJ on a max deal this summer if we failed to land Lebron or Wade, yet there's no YES votes... i agree with Pharzeone, it's a little strange how quickly opinions turn after a playoff run of games... sorta like how Jerome Big Turd James was a "legit 7 footer that was worth the full MLE" all of a sudden after he had a few good games in the Sonics playoff run.

iSergio wrote:Joe Johnson for $12.5M-$13M would be ideal.

Chris Bosh $16.8M
Johnson $13.0M
Drew Gooden/Udonis Haslem/Jermaine O'Neal $4.5M

I think that is too much.

Maybe 3 years, team option on year three, starting at $9mm.

And this isn't the first year he's disappeared in the play offs- he did so last year until he had one break out game.

AnubisADL wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think Chris Weber said it best. Joe Johnson has difficulty creating his own shots. If you watched the games you would see that he would settle for jumpers. His creativity with the ball is lacking. With Jump shooter sometime a a hand in the face is all you need and in the playoffs the intensity goes up and he couldn't handle that intensity. I say Pass on Johnson don't even bother to bring him in not worth the money even if LeBron wants him. Chandler is better IMHO he is more versatile better defensively and more explosive next year Chandler gives you 18-20 points per game.

Joe Johnson has great handle. His issue is he moves like Ron Artest.

Interesting how you acknowledge a player has a problem and shows major red Flags yet you'll still clamor for them. Dude is playing like an Old Man. He 2 series to show what he has Top/Premium value in this league and he floundered big time.

Cosmic wrote:I still can't believe he turned down 4/60

I don't think he's worth even that much. If he is all we get then we still won't even make the playoffs. (Would probably see Harrington walk and Johnson brought in and cap space preserved).

Yet if we can pair him with someone then maybe it'd be just fine at 5/80. Absolutely no more.

Now, as to Chandler, Gallo, Lee, Harrington, Walker, (Joe), (Amare), (Bosh), (LBJ).... well, yeah, we're going to be making decisions. I don't even see how you bring back Lee, Chandler, Gallo, Harrington, Walker anyway. We've already got a log jam.

And I'm still saying it's Chandler that's the odd man out in a trade.

Barkley said the same thing last night. Who turns down $15-16mil/yr? As I said his situation this summer will come down to not accepting anything less than 5yrs/$80mil or 6yrs/$100mil and the team that offers him this, it only will take one or comes the closest is the team that will sign him. What I believe he will do is go to ATL and revisit the extension talk and if nothing comes of it this means his agent has located a team stupid enough to overpay him which will reap a monumental blunder of epic proportions.

AnubisADL wrote:

Juice wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Vmart wrote:I think Chris Weber said it best. Joe Johnson has difficulty creating his own shots. If you watched the games you would see that he would settle for jumpers. His creativity with the ball is lacking. With Jump shooter sometime a a hand in the face is all you need and in the playoffs the intensity goes up and he couldn't handle that intensity. I say Pass on Johnson don't even bother to bring him in not worth the money even if LeBron wants him. Chandler is better IMHO he is more versatile better defensively and more explosive next year Chandler gives you 18-20 points per game.

Joe Johnson has great handle. His issue is he moves like Ron Artest.

Interesting how you acknowledge a player has a problem and shows major red Flags yet you'll still clamor for them. Dude is playing like an Old Man. He 2 series to show what he has Top/Premium value in this league and he floundered big time.

I have stated my view numerous times on Joe Johnson already. If we hadnt trade our future picks I would have preferred tanking and doing a natural rebuild. Since we traded the picks there is no incentive to be bottom feeders for the next 2 yrs. Therefore Im all aboard for any guys that will at least get us to the playoffs for the next 2 yrs.

Wow. So you want to compound the first mistake (trading picks) with a second (signing a failure)?

iSergio wrote:$65M, 5 years (starting salary of about $11M). Take it or leave Joe.

No need for him. Would rather keep focused on building frontline and going after LBJ. If No LBJ then I will fill my roster with the best 1 year rentals that I can and go after carmelo. Joe Joihnson should not be a Knick --i mean what is the difference between 13 and 15--it still takes up too much cap space. I just pass.

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Since I have been here--this poll is the worst KO I have ever seen. Usually you'll have a couple of different opinions

You asked if people would be happy. You should have asked how people would feel and given them options.

Signing Johnson to a ridiculous deal would make me happy but it also wouldn't make me want to slit my wrists.

typo?