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5/6/2010  10:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:@ pick 38 he would be a steal but the interesting part is the Knicks got a workout and they dont have a 1 and multiple teasm who has one's who wanted him this week--did not get him to come in. I know the Knicks are his favorite team and he's from Glenns Falls.

lets pray we get him briggs. i absolutely loved watching him this year and i think under d'antoni he would be lethal. i think we need a late 1st rounder to do it though.

I found out he worked out for the Nets this morning.

that's really scary with the nets having pick #27... we really need to buy pick #24 from atlanta to pick him up.

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5/7/2010  12:19 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:@ pick 38 he would be a steal but the interesting part is the Knicks got a workout and they dont have a 1 and multiple teasm who has one's who wanted him this week--did not get him to come in. I know the Knicks are his favorite team and he's from Glenns Falls.

lets pray we get him briggs. i absolutely loved watching him this year and i think under d'antoni he would be lethal. i think we need a late 1st rounder to do it though.

I found out he worked out for the Nets this morning.

that's really scary with the nets having pick #27... we really need to buy pick #24 from atlanta to pick him up.

the thunder have pick 26 and the celtics have pick 19. fredette is probably going to be a late first rounder. the fact that the knicks are even working him out makes you think they might be considering buying a pick again.

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5/7/2010  2:42 AM
Sitting at a table in a restaurant in Glens Falls a month ago, the thought of his younger brother, Jimmer Fredette, playing for the New York Knicks brought a smile to T.J. Fredette's face.

"We want to see him with the Knicks," T.J. said.

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5/7/2010  7:35 AM
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:@ pick 38 he would be a steal but the interesting part is the Knicks got a workout and they dont have a 1 and multiple teasm who has one's who wanted him this week--did not get him to come in. I know the Knicks are his favorite team and he's from Glenns Falls.

lets pray we get him briggs. i absolutely loved watching him this year and i think under d'antoni he would be lethal. i think we need a late 1st rounder to do it though.

I found out he worked out for the Nets this morning.

that's really scary with the nets having pick #27... we really need to buy pick #24 from atlanta to pick him up.

the thunder have pick 26 and the celtics have pick 19. fredette is probably going to be a late first rounder. the fact that the knicks are even working him out makes you think they might be considering buying a pick again.

I can guarantee you that the KNicks are at least thinking about buying a draft pick. I can almost guarantee that they are considering trades that would get them a first rounder as well. I think the front office realizes it's building time and won't be as conservative as they have been in the past.

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5/7/2010  7:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Sitting at a table in a restaurant in Glens Falls a month ago, the thought of his younger brother, Jimmer Fredette, playing for the New York Knicks brought a smile to T.J. Fredette's face.

"We want to see him with the Knicks," T.J. said.

i like that quote briggs... let's hope we have a deal in place already to buy the hawks pick and give this kid a guarantee so he shuts it down.

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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/knicks_to_work_out_byu_fredette_Xc8FINrLTX28Q2rQuDmGYN

Knicks to work out BYU's Fredette

The Knicks are not going to turn their fortunes around in this June's NBA draft, but at the very least, team president Donnie Walsh is bent on finding a diamond in the rough with one of his two second-round picks.

Walsh would love to find a rotation player to fill out their bare roster heading into the free-agent feast on July 1. (The Knicks' lottery pick is the property of Utah.)

Today, the Knicks' draft search heats up when they begin pre-draft workouts at their Westchester campus, bringing in sharp-shooting guard, Brigham Young's Jimmer Fredette and Tennessee senior Bobby Maze, whom scouts do not believe will be drafted. But Walsh won't be at the workouts today because he flew to Paris for the European final four.

The Knicks have the 38th and 39th picks. Fredette is expected to fall in that range. One league executive said he is a Mark Price-type of player, and coach Mike D'Antoni always is looking for strong perimeter players.

Fredette, from upstate Glens Falls, averaged 22.1 points as a junior and has until tomorrow's deadline to pull out of the draft, because he hasn't hired an agent.

Walsh said he prefers free agency were held before the draft -- like in the NFL -- so teams would have a clearer idea on their needs and whether they need all their cap space.

Walsh faces a dilemma on whether to package the picks and trade up into the first round. Walsh said he will explore that option only if the Knicks fall in love with a player. The guaranteed salary for a late first-round pick is more than $1 million, which could be precious cap space used up. Second-round picks do not have guaranteed pacts and are slotted at an estimated $450,000.

The Knicks could use one of their second-round picks on a European and keep him overseas. Two European centers could be in the mix, 6-foot-11 Miroslav Raduljica and Germany's 7-foot Tibor Pleiss.

The Knicks likely would be thrilled if Cincinnati's Lance Stephenson, of Lincoln High in Brooklyn, fell out of the first round. Stephenson was a surprise early entrant and has until tomorrow to pull out.

Other collegiates expected to go in the second round are Louisville's Samando Samuels, West Virginia's Da'Sean Butler, whose stock has dropped because of an Achilles injury, and Syracuse point guard Andy Rautins.


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5/7/2010  8:36 AM
if d'antoni watches this kids workout, i'm pretty sure he'll be telling donnie to move up into that 1st round so we can draft him. let's hope he watches.
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5/7/2010  9:37 AM
Fredette has until May 8th to remove his name from the NBA draft and go back for his Senior year. He is going back to school guys because no team is stupid enough to give him a guarantee this early.early.
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5/7/2010  9:43 AM
I think we can't add a 1st Rd. pick salary and still have enough room for 2 MAX FA's. We have $34.52 in cap room and the Max contract is $16.8M. So after 2 MAX contracts, we only have $92K left which we need to use for Bill Walker.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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5/7/2010  10:13 AM
iSergio wrote:I think we can't add a 1st Rd. pick salary and still have enough room for 2 MAX FA's. We have $34.52 in cap room and the Max contract is $16.8M. So after 2 MAX contracts, we only have $92K left which we need to use for Bill Walker.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

you are wrong. list out the players and salaries.

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5/7/2010  10:23 AM
Cap is $56.1M

Eddy Curry $11.3M
Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
Wilson Chandler $2.1M
Toney Douglas $1.1M
Cap Holds .47K x 8 = $3.8M
Total = $21.56M
Cap Room = 34.54

Max Contract is $16.8M (30% of $56.1M)
Two Max Contracts are $33.6M
After two Max Contracts, we have $.94K left and 1st Rounders are at least $1M. We also need to keep Bill Walker and his $.85K.

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5/7/2010  12:48 PM
iSergio, your # of cap holds should decrease for every player signed. 8 is too many.
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5/7/2010  12:59 PM
iSergio wrote:Cap is $56.1M

Eddy Curry $11.3M
Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
Wilson Chandler $2.1M
Toney Douglas $1.1M
Cap Holds .47K x 8 = $3.8M
Total = $21.56M
Cap Room = 34.54

Max Contract is $16.8M (30% of $56.1M)
Two Max Contracts are $33.6M
After two Max Contracts, we have $.94K left and 1st Rounders are at least $1M. We also need to keep Bill Walker and his $.85K.

We cant sign 2 max FA and make this work--I think they realize that. I think D Lee is coming back for 6 years 66mm and if we do sign a max FA like James--we will have 9mm or so to fill out the roster.

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5/7/2010  1:06 PM
Andrew wrote:iSergio, your # of cap holds should decrease for every player signed. 8 is too many.

So assuming we sign 2 MAX FA's and keep Bill Walker, we will only have 5 cap holds equaling $2.4M.

#1 MAX FA $16.8M
#2 MAX FA $16.8M
Eddy Curry $11.3M
Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
Wilson Chandler $2.1M
Toney Douglas $1.1M
*Bill Walker $0.85K
Cap Holds .47K x 5 = $2.4M
Total = $54.65M

We would have $1.5M left for a 1st Rounder - thank you Andrew for clearing that up!

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5/7/2010  1:39 PM
iSergio wrote:
Andrew wrote:iSergio, your # of cap holds should decrease for every player signed. 8 is too many.

So assuming we sign 2 MAX FA's and keep Bill Walker, we will only have 5 cap holds equaling $2.4M.

#1 MAX FA $16.8M
#2 MAX FA $16.8M
Eddy Curry $11.3M
Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
Wilson Chandler $2.1M
Toney Douglas $1.1M
*Bill Walker $0.85K
Cap Holds .47K x 5 = $2.4M
Total = $54.65M

We would have $1.5M left for a 1st Rounder - thank you Andrew for clearing that up!

and if you add the first rounder's salary the cap hold decreases by one more slot, etc.

Briggs, I 100% agree with you on Lee.

There is a slim (very) chance/scenario where Wade and Lebron want to play together. We have the power to make that happen.

I think however when you look at how we are constructed the JJ/TMac deal was done to keep Lee, and I think that it was the right thing to do. Lee is simply much more valuable than JJ/Hill for our $10mm. Keeping him is worth the protected pick as well.

Lee is really a quality #2 type player and if we sign a max guy, whether its someone to play next to him or a wing, keeping Lee is paramount to winning right away with that player.

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5/7/2010  1:39 PM
^ don’t you look at that 11.3 and just know that mda's gonna torture the s**t out of him next year. omg it’s gonna be unbelievable - put the marbury, nate and darko treatments to shame. the benchings, snarky comments to the press, ice-cold freeze-outs. i can't wait!

Our new motto should be: we no good - but we fun!

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5/7/2010  1:41 PM
Marv wrote:^ don’t you look at that 11.3 and just know that mda's gonna torture the s**t out of him next year. omg it’s gonna be unbelievable - put the marbury, nate and darko treatments to shame. the benchings, snarky comments to the press, ice-cold freeze-outs. i can't wait!

Our new motto should be: we no good - but we fun!


dude... he's coming back and will dominate. I heard he's training with the big game as I type this to you now
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5/7/2010  1:47 PM
fishmike wrote:
Marv wrote:^ don’t you look at that 11.3 and just know that mda's gonna torture the s**t out of him next year. omg it’s gonna be unbelievable - put the marbury, nate and darko treatments to shame. the benchings, snarky comments to the press, ice-cold freeze-outs. i can't wait!

Our new motto should be: we no good - but we fun!


dude... he's coming back and will dominate. I heard he's training with the big game as I type this to you now

he should have ONE-TENTH of that dedication and professionalism!!!

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5/7/2010  1:50 PM
honest to god I miss Jerome. Remember we all went to the garden loaded? Jerome comes in... runs down the court. Jacks up a shot, then raise his hand "coach.... need a breather."

Those are special times. Special.

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5/7/2010  1:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/7/2010  1:58 PM
fishmike wrote:honest to god I miss Jerome. Remember we all went to the garden loaded? Jerome comes in... runs down the court. Jacks up a shot, then raise his hand "coach.... need a breather."

Those are special times. Special.

that's in my mental highlight reel forever.

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