I have heard it all now.

bitty41 wrote:I have one question what is option B for Walsh's plan?

If LBJ, Bosh, Wade, Stoudamire, JJ, etc all re-up with their teams or with other teams for 5 to 6 years what' step 2? Sign David Lee to a long-term max contract and how do the Knicks fill in the other gaps? Do the Knicks start the waiting process all over again for Durant, CP3, Roy, etc. It just seems that Walsh has put the Knicks on a path for Starphucking nothing else. So I can't really understand how his plan is anything other than about getting LBJ.

I understand the fear and doubt regarding this plan, but we don't know how DW is gonna start the ball rolling. He could already have a trade in mind or he may quickly move to resign Lee and go after easier targets like Tyrus, Gay, Johnson... He may do some of this smaller stuff and hold on to cap for Trade Deadline Deal including Curry and also look towards 2011 to go after other FA's...

My point is there are so many possible scenarios that it's just a Panic Response to concentrate on the worst possible outcome as if it's destined to go down like that. I'm telling you that the chance of doing something detrimental to the team is small. WHY? Cuz there's no reason to do that when you have a trade deadline and another good FA crop the following summer. I repeat there's no chance DW is gonna ruin the team with panic moves when he knows he can continue to improve the team gradually.

franco12 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

sebstar wrote:Jordan Hill and Jared Jeffries weren't malcontents. The future picks weren't malcontents...why did we get rid of them?

I was fine in trading Crawford and Zach because their contracts were ridiculous and we needed to change the culture, but Walsh really lost me with the mid-season deal. It makes no sense other than leading to the acquisition of two max free agents this year. We could have held on to those assets and either traded Jefferies or let his deal expire this year.

"mistakes/malcontents"

Jeffries, was a mistake. A bad player signed to a huge contract. A bad player who we purchased with the MLE with the intent of adding role players to a bad team that was never going to win big. Walsh wanted to get him off the roster to clear cap space to be fully in the game. Hill was collateral damage from the mistakes of the past. A guy you want to keep but unfortunately if you want to be in the game you had to take a gamble and trade him. We threw in draft picks as well. I personally am not excited about losing Hill and the picks, but time will tell if this was a mistake or not. If a Lebron type signs here tehn who cares about Hill and picks. If a Lebron type doesn't sign then we all care. But the answer won't come until the players sign with whatever team they sign with. So we have to wait and see.

This formula had to end.

1.) Bad team
2.) No cap space
3.) Overpaid players(whether they were good or not)
4.) No flexibility
5.) Use your MLE,LLE to sign more bad players to build on top of a bad team because that's the only choice you had.

Except the formula now with Walsh having traded 3 picks for cap space is

1. Bad team
2. lots of cap space
3. all stars say thanks, but no thanks
4. Walsh has to do something, over pays marginal talent
5. no draft picks to help bring in super star talent
6. Repeat last ten years moving forward - capped out, marginally talented team, good enough to stay out of the lotto, bad enough not to make the playoffs, or perhaps have a first round exit once as an eight seed.

You are already angry abotu something that hasn't happened yet. No one has said no. We haven't overpaid for anyone. We haven't destroyed our cap space on losers and yet you are angry about it. Why not just wait and see.

This is the way I look at it, if you fire Walsh today, the next GM is in a better position then when Walsh came in.