[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Free Agent Centers
Author Thread
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
4/27/2010  2:07 PM
Panos wrote:
Marv wrote:13-f**king-million dollars for tyson chandler for next year???? he is a HORRIBLE player.

tyrus thomas i am extremely unimpressed with. but at 6M i could see it possibly being worth a shot. gotta wonder though how much mda would be interested in playing him.

The voice of reason. I have yet to see TT play as good as his "athletic" reputation would suggest.

I wasn't as impressed as others were about Tyrus when he was with LSU.

“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
AUTOADVERT
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
4/27/2010  2:28 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:2) trade ECurry for Biedrins
why do you post this? Is GS down on him? They just resigned him... if that deal had a fart's chance in a wind how do you not do that? stick the long athletic mobile guy next to Lee and add some perimeter guys and your rolling. Hell... I might even take Maggette's contract back (I hate him) if I could get a pick or something back. But straight up? Why would GS do that?

they're extremely down on him. nellie didn't play him at all this year, even when he was healthy. nellie said repeatedly it looked like he'd lost all desire and gave him no minutes. it'd be a gamble and i'd want to see him healthy, but i think biedrins can be had.

it offers them the chance to get out from under his deal for eddy's expiring.

you could expand the deal to be Biedrins + CJ Watson for Eddy Curry + Wilson Chandler. gives the Warriors a SF and an escape from the Biedrins commitment which they clearly no longer want. I bet Nellie wants to play Turiaf and Anthony Randolph as his bigs next year.

When I hear "Lose all desire" I instantly think of Eddie Curry, and that's a gigantic red flag waving in front of my face.

yeah, but don nelson said it and he is absolutely insane, as well as probably "allanfan-ed" before every game. no offense.

¿ △ ?
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
4/27/2010  2:45 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:2) trade ECurry for Biedrins
why do you post this? Is GS down on him? They just resigned him... if that deal had a fart's chance in a wind how do you not do that? stick the long athletic mobile guy next to Lee and add some perimeter guys and your rolling. Hell... I might even take Maggette's contract back (I hate him) if I could get a pick or something back. But straight up? Why would GS do that?

they're extremely down on him. nellie didn't play him at all this year, even when he was healthy. nellie said repeatedly it looked like he'd lost all desire and gave him no minutes. it'd be a gamble and i'd want to see him healthy, but i think biedrins can be had.

it offers them the chance to get out from under his deal for eddy's expiring.

you could expand the deal to be Biedrins + CJ Watson for Eddy Curry + Wilson Chandler. gives the Warriors a SF and an escape from the Biedrins commitment which they clearly no longer want. I bet Nellie wants to play Turiaf and Anthony Randolph as his bigs next year.

When I hear "Lose all desire" I instantly think of Eddie Curry, and that's a gigantic red flag waving in front of my face.

yeah, but don nelson said it and he is absolutely insane, as well as probably "allanfan-ed" before every game. no offense.

man,... if they wanted to dump salary where do I sign? I wouldnt include Chandler though. I'm still not sure what Wilson's upside is but we know a few things: He defends the post and the perimeter. He can score a variety of ways. He plays hard. He plays hurt. He has a good attitude. Even if he next breaks beyond an athletic 2/3/4 guy who gives you 15/7 and shoots 48%-50% and plays good defense every night I will take that. So long as we sign him to a reasonable deal.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
4/27/2010  3:25 PM
Of Course available C's suck. Good ones almost never come available. We're not looking at this the right way. you're not gonna get the perfect solution. You have to think strategically and try to get the best possible option for the price. IMO Dalembert, Tyrus are improving offensive players and proven shotblockers. I think they'd do well for us. Most of the time we're gonna be playing offensively strong units and only in spurts will we be looking to use our C's for defensive support.
Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 1/25/2010
Member: #3051
USA
4/27/2010  4:30 PM
Slavko Vranes is available.
"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
iSergio
Posts: 21499
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/13/2010
Member: #3043
USA
4/27/2010  4:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:they all sck

Even your boy Kyrylo Fesenko? LOL

Brendan Haywood does not suck - 10/10/2 and 7'0" 260 and 30 years old.

kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
4/27/2010  5:57 PM
We should look at PFs who we can put at Center. You know D'antoni won't go for the traditional slow plodding BIG. He's played a PF as a C for basically every season he has coached. Why would he start using a traditional C?

Tyrus Thomas isn't a bad option.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
BigC
Posts: 22672
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/14/2004
Member: #829
4/27/2010  6:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/27/2010  6:43 PM
JonsTintedTails wrote:We should go after Dalembert.
No to Brad Ma Ma Miller.

Agree on Tyrus Thomas and Tyson Chandler. I like Haywood but not sure if he is a god fit in NY since he is not athletic enough.


Dalembert's contract does not expire until next season. He is also going to be making 12 million a year next season.
BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks highlights after every Knicks game http://fromthebaseline.com/
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
4/27/2010  6:44 PM
I don't know with the current coach. Two seven footers got minutes this past season, Bender and Barron. Trying to find a hybrid center/guard that D'Antoni will play or an ultra quick thin atheletic guy would not be tops on my list as GM because I don't know if the coach will play him anyway. I think Walsh should resign Barron and look for a guy he could steal or take a chance on like Yi. I don't know Dalembert's contract situation but I think Philly would move him and he might be the right fit. I think when talking about getting a center you have to remember that D'Antoni has been quoted as saying that they slow the game down too much. Brad Lohaus is not available.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
4/28/2010  2:14 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I don't know with the current coach. Two seven footers got minutes this past season, Bender and Barron. Trying to find a hybrid center/guard that D'Antoni will play or an ultra quick thin atheletic guy would not be tops on my list as GM because I don't know if the coach will play him anyway. I think Walsh should resign Barron and look for a guy he could steal or take a chance on like Yi. I don't know Dalembert's contract situation but I think Philly would move him and he might be the right fit. I think when talking about getting a center you have to remember that D'Antoni has been quoted as saying that they slow the game down too much. Brad Lohaus is not available.

It's not C's in general slow the game down. It's C's with a lack of skills and BB IQ. You don't see the good teams being slowed down by having a good C. The C doesn't have to be the 1st guy down the court but if he can beat his man down it gives you an advantage. That's more to the point.


Now it is true that MDA wants to play fast. REAL FAST. So fast that other teams can't keep up. You can't do that with a big slow plodding guy. That means you have to play slower and in the half court and that means you are giving the other team a chance to set it's D and play to it's strengths. Still MDA has been able to play fast with a big slow C as he did with Shaq. It's just his preference from a purity standpoint to play with a more athletic C/PF that can handle the pace. I'd LOVE to have a kid like Al Horford! That kid would be perfect for this team. He's rugged and still can get up and down. What ever happened with Marreese Speights? I always thought he had a ton of ability and upside. Wonder if he's available?

kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
4/28/2010  11:19 AM
Woohoo! cross Brad Miller off the list!
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
4/28/2010  11:54 AM
LOL! u know the options are becoming severely limited when we're sitting here wondering why Channing Frye would ever leave his team to come to NY.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
EnySpree
Posts: 44919
Alba Posts: 138
Joined: 4/18/2003
Member: #397

4/28/2010  12:18 PM
Joakim Noah is probably the Knicks best option at center. Too bad the bulls fell back in love with him. If there is even the slightest chance to get him Knicks should bite.
Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC https://instagram.com/diehardknickspodcast
martin
Posts: 78423
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
4/28/2010  12:32 PM
EnySpree wrote:Joakim Noah is probably the Knicks best option at center. Too bad the bulls fell back in love with him. If there is even the slightest chance to get him Knicks should bite.

Curry trade turned out to be Noah and Aldridge? Not a bad front line if you toss in Lee as the 3rd big.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
4/28/2010  12:43 PM
TMS wrote:LOL! u know the options are becoming severely limited when we're sitting here wondering why Channing Frye would ever leave his team to come to NY.

The options at this position have been limited for some time now, good teams play good team defense, I mean lets get real, how many defensive shut down centers are out there.

Doesn't even matter if your back court is a welcome wagon into the paint, your Center is going to be in foul trouble majority of the time.

ES
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
4/28/2010  12:45 PM
martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Joakim Noah is probably the Knicks best option at center. Too bad the bulls fell back in love with him. If there is even the slightest chance to get him Knicks should bite.

Curry trade turned out to be Noah and Aldridge? Not a bad front line if you toss in Lee as the 3rd big.


man.. and we lose this years #1 because of the Marbury trade. Think about how much those two players set this franchise back
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 1/25/2010
Member: #3051
USA
4/28/2010  12:54 PM
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Joakim Noah is probably the Knicks best option at center. Too bad the bulls fell back in love with him. If there is even the slightest chance to get him Knicks should bite.

Curry trade turned out to be Noah and Aldridge? Not a bad front line if you toss in Lee as the 3rd big.


man.. and we lose this years #1 because of the Marbury trade. Think about how much those two players set this franchise back

"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
arkrud
Posts: 32217
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 8/31/2005
Member: #995
USA
4/28/2010  1:58 PM
Looks like center position in NBA is slowly Frayed...
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
4/28/2010  2:27 PM
This as others have said was always going to be a tough position to fill just going with the available FA's. A trade is probably more likely. Still there will be some guys available and to be honest I never wanted Miller at this point in his career anyway. It's not a big deal.

Now watch how quickly everyone wants to come here once we sign a player with a good rep. It's just natural for these guys to be short sighted when they look at our situation. They don't realize that this team will not be the same one we've seen losing the last few years. PLUS these guys haven't even talked to their agents or the Knicks yet and so they shouldn't be so hasty in making such bold statements about where they'll go or not.

knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
4/28/2010  2:56 PM
We have been so bad for so long, that we have truly become a last option on player's wish list.
The organzation has really took a PR hit since the 2k era, and we have made a mockery of ourselve's in the process.

At this point, we may need to start looking at players that are upincoming, like when Boozer and Joe J left to go to the current squads..niether had ever been an all star, and where definitely not max guys. I thought when we got Curry and JC, we had pick up some soon to be all stars like the 2 players i mention. It really seem as if they were primed to do big things.

I don't think the knicks should focus on nothing more then finding a lagit star PG, then go from there.

ES
Free Agent Centers

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy