iSergio wrote:The chances of us getting shut out are slim to none. This is New York. Once FA's come and visit, they will be fighting each other to sign here.

i highly doubt that. any of these guys have enough money to get out to ny and party/enjoy the sights....no need to play here to be able to do that. what exactly do the kicks have to offer that is so enticing to FA's again?

jimimou wrote:

iSergio wrote:The chances of us getting shut out are slim to none. This is New York. Once FA's come and visit, they will be fighting each other to sign here.

i highly doubt that. any of these guys have enough money to get out to ny and party/enjoy the sights....no need to play here to be able to do that. what exactly do the kicks have to offer that is so enticing to FA's again?

It's about legacy and opportunities.

jimimou wrote:i think knicks fans should root for the celts to close out the heat in game 5. the worse the heat perform, and confirm that it's only wade that comes to play with and a bunch of scrubs as his teammates, the better off NY is of getting him. dwade looks damn frustrated on the court. i think he bolts if the heat continue to get spanked by boston.

If they want to win a title right away they can sign for $14mm instead of $17mm and we can resign David Lee.

Your 2010 Knicks:
pg Wade
sg Chandler
sf Gallo
pf Lebron
c Lee
bench: Douglas, Walker, 2nd rounders

Like the NY lottery. All you need a UK login and a dream!

MS wrote:We are in serious trouble. New York is not really that desirable a location. The living expenses are a joke the weather is terrible, the franchise is one of the worst in the sport, the owner is hated and the talent is medicore. Throw in the media and I think most guys are taking a pass. Mentally tough guys just don't exist.

If you are Chris Bosh why would you come to NY. You can get max dollars from five teams. The weather is Miami and Wade? Deng, Noah, Gibson, Rose that team becomes are favorite in the east if they add bosh and he won't have to carry the load. The Thunder would be the best team in the league with him on the roster. Or you could go to NY play out of position and have no point guard to throw you the ball. Not happening.

Boozer is putting up huge numbers in the playoffs and the nets will overpay someone. He can get max dollars from the heat and the bulls so it doesn't make sense to come to NY. UTAH will probably resign him.

Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Livingston, Ray Allen, Haywood, David Lee, Foye, Lowry, Scola.

That's all we are really looking at. Which means lottery again, no lottery pick and giving away a draft pick for nothing.

When was the last time the Knicks had a chance to sign a bigtime player? Allan Houston and Chris Childs were the last non-MLE type players we signed here. Big FAs have some here for every other sport. Yankees, Mets, Rangers (werent Messier and Gretzky FAs?). Ever been to Chicago in the winter? Its worse than NY, more wind and less to do.

I think Bosh to the Nets has real potential. Bosh is a girl and playing next to Lopez means the amount of contact he gets during a game will be limited. He can be a high post player, score his 25 points, get his 8 rebounds and win 45 games a year and wonder why nobody cares about the Nets.

If the Knicks bring in a bunch of FAs and they all sign w/ different teams you can say this is a not a good FA destination, but that hasnt happened yet. I'm not counting trying to sign Grant Hill or Jason Kidd for the league minimum. We already KNOW Chi is a terrible FA destination. They have had many big FAs in several years and their big catch was Eddie Robinson.

iSergio wrote:

MS wrote:We are in serious trouble. New York is not really that desirable a location. The living expenses are a joke the weather is terrible, the franchise is one of the worst in the sport, the owner is hated and the talent is medicore. Throw in the media and I think most guys are taking a pass. Mentally tough guys just don't exist.

If you are Chris Bosh why would you come to NY. You can get max dollars from five teams. The weather is Miami and Wade? Deng, Noah, Gibson, Rose that team becomes are favorite in the east if they add bosh and he won't have to carry the load. The Thunder would be the best team in the league with him on the roster. Or you could go to NY play out of position and have no point guard to throw you the ball. Not happening.

Boozer is putting up huge numbers in the playoffs and the nets will overpay someone. He can get max dollars from the heat and the bulls so it doesn't make sense to come to NY. UTAH will probably resign him.

Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Livingston, Ray Allen, Haywood, David Lee, Foye, Lowry, Scola.

That's all we are really looking at. Which means lottery again, no lottery pick and giving away a draft pick for nothing.

Yeah, I bet Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, CC Sabithia, Eli Manning, Mark Sanchez and Jose Reyes are miserable here. And I bet Mark Messier, Patrick Ewing, Phil Simms, Lawrence Taylor, Walt Frazier and Willis Reed regret their careers playing in New York.

New York is the place to be if you're an athlete. If you cannot see that, you need help. There are opportunities and a legacy you can achieve playing here that you cannot achieve in other cities.

I know next to nothing about baseball but I know the Yankees are one of the best Professional Sport Franchises in any sport. So trying to compare them to the Knicks simply because they share the same city is pretty laughable. The Knicks history speaks for itself in the past 30 years the Knicks have never signed a big-time free-agent.

bitty41 wrote:

iSergio wrote:

MS wrote:We are in serious trouble. New York is not really that desirable a location. The living expenses are a joke the weather is terrible, the franchise is one of the worst in the sport, the owner is hated and the talent is medicore. Throw in the media and I think most guys are taking a pass. Mentally tough guys just don't exist.

If you are Chris Bosh why would you come to NY. You can get max dollars from five teams. The weather is Miami and Wade? Deng, Noah, Gibson, Rose that team becomes are favorite in the east if they add bosh and he won't have to carry the load. The Thunder would be the best team in the league with him on the roster. Or you could go to NY play out of position and have no point guard to throw you the ball. Not happening.

Boozer is putting up huge numbers in the playoffs and the nets will overpay someone. He can get max dollars from the heat and the bulls so it doesn't make sense to come to NY. UTAH will probably resign him.

Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Livingston, Ray Allen, Haywood, David Lee, Foye, Lowry, Scola.

That's all we are really looking at. Which means lottery again, no lottery pick and giving away a draft pick for nothing.

Yeah, I bet Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, CC Sabithia, Eli Manning, Mark Sanchez and Jose Reyes are miserable here. And I bet Mark Messier, Patrick Ewing, Phil Simms, Lawrence Taylor, Walt Frazier and Willis Reed regret their careers playing in New York.

New York is the place to be if you're an athlete. If you cannot see that, you need help. There are opportunities and a legacy you can achieve playing here that you cannot achieve in other cities.

I know next to nothing about baseball but I know the Yankees are one of the best Professional Sport Franchises in any sport. So trying to compare them to the Knicks simply because they share the same city is pretty laughable. The Knicks history speaks for itself in the past 30 years the Knicks have never signed a big-time free-agent.

We haven't had many opportunities to sign big free agents the last 30 years but we've had plenty of Stars come to play here by trades like Latrell Sprewell, Larry Johnson, ect. And you may not like this but the free agents don't give a damn about what happened here the last 30 years, let alone the last 2 years.

iSergio wrote:

jimimou wrote:

iSergio wrote:The chances of us getting shut out are slim to none. This is New York. Once FA's come and visit, they will be fighting each other to sign here.

i highly doubt that. any of these guys have enough money to get out to ny and party/enjoy the sights....no need to play here to be able to do that. what exactly do the kicks have to offer that is so enticing to FA's again?

It's about legacy and opportunities.

ny has no legacy and no opportunities if you dont get lebron this year. please try again.

MS wrote:The Knicks are not storied. We haven't won anything in nearly four decades. All we have is the Garden. When you think of baseball you think of the Yankees. The Mets have to overpay everyone they get. Playing for the Yankees means something. Playing for the Knicks doesn't. Regardless of how passionate the fans are and how much we care the simple truth is the Knicks are the biggest joke in the NBA. There owner is not a good person and the environment in NYC is not good. We are hanging onto Willis, Clyde and that great 70's team. We have had King and Ewing and a couple of fringe all-stars since.

Chris Childs exactly. There were a number of stars that decided to stay with their teams that offseason.

If you could live some place and be comfortable and not worry about pressure why wouldn't you do it. Wade owns Miami and Bosh can get max money in two place where he can be star and not worry about carrying a team. Wade is a better player than Kobe and Durant maybe one of the top 5 players in the NBA next season if he isn't already. So why choose NY? He becomes a huge story, I agree. But, when the Knicks falter he gets hammered. Can he handle that? I doubt it

I stopped reading after that. Thankfully none of the free agents feel or think like you do.

Winning in New York is special. The Rangers are basically a non story here when they make the playoffs and don't go to the conference finals. How many big time guys have come here and wilted under the pressure?

Look a guy like Garnett. Never made a big basket in his career. You come to NY and you can't hide. ISergio you seem to have no idea what you're talking about. Patrick Ewing? The guy was miserable here. He had the team in the playoffs every year and had to deal with Jordan. The media killed the guy the fans gave him a heard time and he is twice the player Bosh will ever be. Playing in this city isn't all it's cracked up to be unless you're on the Yankees.