SupremeCommander wrote:Carmelo Anthony was a pure SF that willed Cuse to a national championship. Beasley is a tweener who played at K State and didn't accomplish much teamwise in his brief college tenure.

Maybe their backstories are similar (sans the suicide stuff) but there is no way Melo and Beasley are on the same plane as basketball players

You are correct Beasley is a tweener. Beasley also didnt have much of a team at Kansas. They have done nothing since he left. Come on Beasley wasn't going to commit suicide.

Anthony is 4 yrs years older than Beasley so obviously I'm referring to the young Carmelo Anthony. The same guy who used to jack nearly 20 shots to score 20 points. Of course people dont want to remember that because Carmelo is hot stuff now. People seem to forget that Anthony had the luxury of playing with Andre Miller(PG) and Marcus Camby(C) who allowed him to focus dam near exclusively on scoring buckets. Anthony also was playing 35+ minutes a night from day 1.

Beasley gets to play with Wade and SCRUBS yet he doesnt get that many touches.

sebstar wrote:Beasley is looking like a classic example of a cat that wont be able to live down where he was selected. He's a good scorer, but he'll always be looked upon as a bust which can wear you down.

His ceiling is David Lee.

Beasley= Tim Thomas

AnubisADL wrote:So even though Gallo and Beasley are in the same draft class Beasley is Tim Thomas and Gallo can still be DirK. Even though at the same age they put up the same stats only Beasley did it in 10 less minutes per game. Yea that makes perfect sense.

Beasley is as dumb as rocks and plays with 0 effort on the court. Have you ever heard of Derrick Coleman? All the talent in the world and he ended up being a mediocre player because he never grew up. Beasley is heading down the same path. He's not serious about himself and his career.

AnubisADL wrote:So even though Gallo and Beasley are in the same draft class Beasley is Tim Thomas and Gallo can still be DirK. Even though at the same age they put up the same stats only Beasley did it in 10 less minutes per game. Yea that makes perfect sense.

How is Gallo and and Beas even in the same sentence...Gallo ended the season much better then he started it, which is a clear sign of a player getting better.

If we had a graph to show Beas career so far in this league, it would be a FLAT LINE.
I heard Breen ask JVG and Mark Jack today weather a player (refering to beas) is more likely to get it later on down( 4/5 years) the road, and they pretty much said, if a player doesn't show vast improvement in the first couple seasons, then he's more likely to never get it. Bease has look the same from his 1st game to his 155th game.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:So even though Gallo and Beasley are in the same draft class Beasley is Tim Thomas and Gallo can still be DirK. Even though at the same age they put up the same stats only Beasley did it in 10 less minutes per game. Yea that makes perfect sense.

Beasley is as dumb as rocks and plays with 0 effort on the court. Have you ever heard of Derrick Coleman? All the talent in the world and he ended up being a mediocre player because he never grew up. Beasley is heading down the same path. He's not serious about himself and his career.

This whole dumb as rocks thing is getting tired. Brandon Jennings was supposedly dumb as rocks too. Dwayne Wade couldn't even play his first year of College because of his grades and I dont see people complaining about his IQ. Beasley playing with zero effort is comical. Does he coast yes but so do plenty of other young guys.

Beasley is the 2nd best player on that Heat team yet Miami could careless about Beasley's development. I have seen him literally be frozen out of the offense. Yet when the Heat lose Beasley is there whipping boy.

Why even bring up Derrick Coleman? The guy had weight issues due to his poor work ethic. He was a team cancer type of guy. Beasley could become Tim Thomas but so can Gallo so I dont really see the point.

What position does Beasley play??

Great midrange shooter, but he can't hit the 3, and will not be able to keep up with a classic SF on D. Too small, at a bogus 6'10" to play
d against larger PF's, although he is able to drive them crazy on offense. He gets some steals on D, but can't block shots. Great player to isolate against an opponent on offense, but does not seem to be comfortable in an offense which moves the ball around.

There is a reason why Miami came back in today's game with Beasley on the bench.

I assume that he does not get the D.Wade stamp of approval, and that may affect the # of touches he gets, but why do you think Wade feels the way he does toward Beasley? Guys like Wade, James, Magic, Jordan, etc., want their teammates to play consistent, hardnosed, and intelligent ball. If they don't like your game there is a good reason for it.

Does Beasley have to be the go to guy on his team in order to play at his most efficient level? Can he be effective if he is not the prime scorer on his team, with his coach's blessing to shoot when he wants to?

Would I want I want to give up a guy like Chandler to get Beasley. Beasley is the better player in terms of individual ability, but I have to wonder how he fits into a team framework at this point in his career.

How different is he from Harrington at this point? If we can get on the cheap, he might be worth the gamble, but I would be hesitant to give up a Chandler for him. I don't deny his skill, but have a lot of questions about his character, and I think that you are wrong to downplay this aspect of him.

By the way- do you think the Heat would swap Beasley for Gallo, one for one, at this point? I say they would do it in heartbeat.

They should have taken B. Lopez. Think about how he and Wade would be together.

Paladin55 wrote:I look at Beasley like I look at Gallo- too early to tell who he will end up as a player, but there are a lot of questions he has to answer as a player, and you have to wonder if he is the kind of player you can really depend on to be a building block for your team.

What position does Beasley play??

Great midrange shooter, but he can't hit the 3, and will not be able to keep up with a classic SF on D. Too small, at a bogus 6'10" to play
d against larger PF's, although he is able to drive them crazy on offense. He gets some steals on D, but can't block shots. Great player to isolate against an opponent on offense, but does not seem to be comfortable in an offense which moves the ball around.

There is a reason why Miami came back in today's game with Beasley on the bench.

I assume that he does not get the D.Wade stamp of approval, and that may affect the # of touches he gets, but why do you think Wade feels the way he does toward Beasley? Guys like Wade, James, Magic, Jordan, etc., want their teammates to play consistent, hardnosed, and intelligent ball. If they don't like your game there is a good reason for it.

Does Beasley have to be the go to guy on his team in order to play at his most efficient level? Can he be effective if he is not the prime scorer on his team, with his coach's blessing to shoot when he wants to?

Would I want I want to give up a guy like Chandler to get Beasley. Beasley is the better player in terms of individual ability, but I have to wonder how he fits into a team framework at this point in his career.

How different is he from Harrington at this point? If we can get on the cheap, he might be worth the gamble, but I would be hesitant to give up a Chandler for him. I don't deny his skill, but have a lot of questions about his character, and I think that you are wrong to downplay this aspect of him.

By the way- do you think the Heat would swap Beasley for Gallo, one for one, at this point? I say they would do it in heartbeat.

They should have taken B. Lopez. Think about how he and Wade would be together.

- Beasley not being able to keep up with SF's must be a joke. The guy is 6'8" in shoes. Miami's front court is severely undersized. So he gets exposed by bigger stronger PF's.

- Beasley can block shots and has shown he is a capable shot blocker. He tends to block shots as the help defender though.

- Miami does NOT move the ball. Wade gets the ball dribbles around then kicks it out.

- Beasley is a Sophmore expected to lead the team in Wade's absence. Beasley is not Kevin Durant.

- Chandler is a RFA in 2011 while Beasley is on a rookie deal for 2 more years.

- Why even compare Beasley to Harrington? Why pick the worse of the worse to compare him too. I guess we should compare Gallo to Tim Thomas.

Do you think Pat Riley wants a 7 footer coming off of back surgery who likes to stand around the perimeter and shoot 3's?

Michael Beasley just turned 21 in January. The guy has already displayed offensive skill that guys like Rudy Gay dream about. This guys offensive repetoire is disturbingly good. Mid range game is sweet plus he can put the ball on the floor and finish in a variety of ways at the rim. You really dont see guys with his skills and size at 21.

Paladin55 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
Michael Beasley just turned 21 in January. The guy has already displayed offensive skill that guys like Rudy Gay dream about. This guys offensive repetoire is disturbingly good. Mid range game is sweet plus he can put the ball on the floor and finish in a variety of ways at the rim. You really dont see guys with his skills and size at 21.

Nobody is saying that Beasley does not have talent, but Miami would not be shopping him around if he did not have some major issues/flaws as a player(and as a person), in the eyes of the Heat brass.

He was the second pick in a very good draft class, and has a world of talent as a scorer- yet the Heat are looking to move him...

...Now what does that tell you about how the team which has seen him play more than anyone thinks about his game, my friend?

not only his play on the court, but the Heat have obviously seen him off the court now as well.

Riley might be old school, but he is a winner, and if he doesn't want a player, then no way I would pay much- Chandler might be too high a price to pay straight up!

Anji wrote:He would be a nice pick up when we lose Lee.

huh...don't see any correlation. If he could perform like Lee then yeah, he would be a good pickup if we lost lee but, he's more of a Gallo-lite (and we have too many sf's as it is).