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EwingsGlass
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4/22/2010  8:33 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
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EwingsGlass wrote:While its hard to dispute that characterization, I tend to view Sergio's failures as problems stemming from the Duhonesque offense. Basically, the Knicks all stand around the 3 pt line and wait for a pick or swing pass. Sergio would consistently break past his defender, get into the paint-- at which point he was swarmed by help defense and yet the now open Knicks were not breaking to the basket, they were still at the 3pt line. That's not to say that Sergio can't be out of control, but I think the team played a bit to static while he was on the court and Sergio benefits from a motion offense.

At this point though, I don't think I would give up on two max free agents to resign Sergio.

Exactly, but I thought it was the fact that he really didn't know the offense, but he did the same thing in portland. He's the perfect example of a guy tht shows flashes of greatness, but it's ridiculously short lived

Yeah, perhaps I am optimistic about Sergio when I assume it is the Knicks offense that has gotten some bad habits rather than the PG who has become turnover prone based upon the fact that he gets swarmed in the paint. I think that an offense that has a full pre-season to get familiar with his tenencies (and he can get familiar with their tendencies) and the realization that players will be rewarded for their movement toward the basket-- if and when that occurs, Sergio would be worth every penny of a $3m contract. His abilities are wasted in a half court set though.

The kid has great intentions, can really see the floor, but his plays are either to early or to late.
I actually like this kid, but he really needs to shift it in to the appropriate gear.

You know MDA thinks he's the perfect fit, because thats the style he prefers to play and figured
that the current squad should have actually been catching up to him.

I think you get players into the habit of being up the floor ahead of Sergio and converging to the basket or moving to the corner for a 3 and Sergio will be fine.

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iSergio
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4/22/2010  9:02 AM
Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.
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4/22/2010  9:50 AM
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

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4/22/2010  9:53 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:While its hard to dispute that characterization, I tend to view Sergio's failures as problems stemming from the Duhonesque offense. Basically, the Knicks all stand around the 3 pt line and wait for a pick or swing pass. Sergio would consistently break past his defender, get into the paint-- at which point he was swarmed by help defense and yet the now open Knicks were not breaking to the basket, they were still at the 3pt line. That's not to say that Sergio can't be out of control, but I think the team played a bit to static while he was on the court and Sergio benefits from a motion offense.

At this point though, I don't think I would give up on two max free agents to resign Sergio.

Exactly, but I thought it was the fact that he really didn't know the offense, but he did the same thing in portland. He's the perfect example of a guy tht shows flashes of greatness, but it's ridiculously short lived

Yeah, perhaps I am optimistic about Sergio when I assume it is the Knicks offense that has gotten some bad habits rather than the PG who has become turnover prone based upon the fact that he gets swarmed in the paint. I think that an offense that has a full pre-season to get familiar with his tenencies (and he can get familiar with their tendencies) and the realization that players will be rewarded for their movement toward the basket-- if and when that occurs, Sergio would be worth every penny of a $3m contract. His abilities are wasted in a half court set though.

The kid has great intentions, can really see the floor, but his plays are either to early or to late.
I actually like this kid, but he really needs to shift it in to the appropriate gear.

You know MDA thinks he's the perfect fit, because thats the style he prefers to play and figured
that the current squad should have actually been catching up to him.

I think you get players into the habit of being up the floor ahead of Sergio and converging to the basket or moving to the corner for a 3 and Sergio will be fine.

I wish it was that easy, this guy gets the ball( off of a steal or a rebound) and he is out, there's no looking around or pacing himself to let his teammates get into postion. How many S/F P/F S/G in the league that are that fast.

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4/22/2010  9:53 AM
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

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4/22/2010  10:00 AM
Story is bogus. It makes zero sense to talk dollars with anyone until 7/1.
Walsh is not going to spend of commit a single penny until the fa signing period opens up.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/22/2010  10:01 AM
iSergio wrote:
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

Your right, he has great court vision, just terrible timing...he has passes the land perfectly to his teammate except for one thing...no one in the entire arena seen it coming except him.

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4/22/2010  10:03 AM
no option on the second year? id be mixed with this 3 million is alot for someone who would be in and out of the rotation next year
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4/22/2010  10:06 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

Your right, he has great court vision, just terrible timing...he has passes the land perfectly to his teammate except for one thing...no one in the entire arena seen it coming except him.

That's where Training Camp will help. My dream is to have a bench rotation of Wilson Chandler, Bill Walker, Sergio Rodriguez and an athletic big come off the bench.

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4/22/2010  10:18 AM
iSergio wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

Your right, he has great court vision, just terrible timing...he has passes the land perfectly to his teammate except for one thing...no one in the entire arena seen it coming except him.

That's where Training Camp will help. My dream is to have a bench rotation of Wilson Chandler, Bill Walker, Sergio Rodriguez and an athletic big come off the bench.

Thats actually a half way decent bench, just no leadership, those guys are athletic and fast but not very smart. I kinda prefer at least one battle tested veteren coming of the bench

If you take a look at the magic, there the most balance team in the NBA, with Dallas coming in 2nd.

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4/22/2010  10:46 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

Your right, he has great court vision, just terrible timing...he has passes the land perfectly to his teammate except for one thing...no one in the entire arena seen it coming except him.

Nash and Kidd were know to smack team mates in the face with Balls early in their careers. These guys are not used to playing with a crafty ball handler. They are used to obvious passes from dudu. Dude can't even toss a lob

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/22/2010  11:11 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
martin wrote:
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez with a Training Camp and better players would be a very good backup PG. Possibly one of the best.

what have you seen that would make you say that?

Sergio Rodriguez has good court vision, terrific speed and shot better I than expected (49% fg, 35% from 3pt, 81% from ft). He's not a starter or big minutes player because he can't defend his own shadow but he could be a game changer off the bench.

Your right, he has great court vision, just terrible timing...he has passes the land perfectly to his teammate except for one thing...no one in the entire arena seen it coming except him.

Nash and Kidd were know to smack team mates in the face with Balls early in their careers. These guys are not used to playing with a crafty ball handler. They are used to obvious passes from dudu. Dude can't even toss a lob

I would support this fact if this wasn't the same story in protland. i think this guy sealing is pretty low.

MDA has this fantasy that he can turn sub par PG's into Nash or close to him just by playing in his system. The glimpse's that Duhon showed for stretches had MDA wetting his pants cause he thought it would be a matter before he could perfect it, thats why he stayed with his crack head ass to the end.

You already have TD ( who's a little more under control)and unless your planning on pawning him off this summer, what the purpose of serg. Maybe they feel the both of them off the bench together is a perfect Duo....

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4/22/2010  12:25 PM
Pretty much, 1248...homeboy is a backup, why not just find a D Leaguer or a 2nd rounder for a fraction of the cost, instead? The book on Sergio has been written. He's small and cant shoot. Good ball handler and passer, but not for no damn 3 milly.
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4/22/2010  12:28 PM
sebstar wrote:Pretty much, 1248...homeboy is a backup, why not just find a D Leaguer or a 2nd rounder for a fraction of the cost, instead? The book on Sergio has been written. He's small and cant shoot. Good ball handler and passer, but not for no damn 3 milly.

while i agree with the sentiment of sergio being a back up, i'm not sure i'd agree with the fact that he can't shoot. he did shoot 35% from 3 with us as well as 46% overall from the field.

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4/22/2010  12:31 PM
His assist/turnover ratio is 3.6:2.

Not good.

Sergio: 2 years 6M?

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