Vmart wrote:If I had to trade Chandler then I would definitley try to get a higher pick than 14. Last year he was talked as a 5 pick. Chandler has improved his game even without all the practice that he missed last year. This year with a solid summers worth of practice I can see him coming back and being a 20ppg player. Put it this way I would rather keep Chandler and pair him up with Lebron or Wade or Joe Johnson. He is versatile can guard sgs, pfs and sfs. I see him as Pippen type player. Who would complement a big time FA signing like LeBron or Wade.

I too would like to add Hassan Whiteside but i think he will be a pick that is going to go well before the 14th pick.

You're probably right--I have high doubts once this kid goes through the workouts that he will be available--that doesnt mean we cant look for a higher draft pick:)

This is unique prospect. He has unusual run jump athletic ability for someone so long but he is not a finished prospect--or he might be going 1. Within 2 years--adding 20 pounds of muscle strength/conditioning while honing the skills--you are going to have one heckuva player on your hand. It's tough getting a C and we have not buckled down and acquired one. If we did get Camby he would be a great mentor for 2 years. I think for us to be a good team we need to try to find a C. If we cant through the draft--- I really like Mahimini from, SA. He's also a player who has done very well when given a chance--he's cheap 6-11 245 athletic and UFA. I just think with all of this cap space--we need to somehow get 1 or 2 guys who are 6-11 + who can play the 5. Barron was fairly solid but I don't think he was a great defensive presence.

holfresh wrote:

Right this very day..Chandler is better than Gallo...He has played better all season when in game together..How does Gallo start ahead of Chandler, the coach?

He starts ahead of Chandler because he is more skilled, smarter, and has an infinite ceiling going forward.

I'm not a Chandler fan, this is known, but that doesn't influence my POV. Chandler played very well this season. Better than I expected yet I still feel he is overrated around Knick forums. However it is just realistic that he is odd man out. Chandler stays if we strike out this summer. However, Chandler might even be moved to try to ensure we don't "strike out".

He's just odd man out. Last man on the list of players to keep (that list includes players we will target of course).

He's the least skilled of the players. So he'd go. Given he's not CRAP he is a GOOD asset in trade. So honestly I give it a good 75% chance Chandler gets moved unless we COMPLETELY bomb this offseason.

crzymdups wrote:I would offer Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry to Golden State for CJ Watson and Biedrins.

Im not a fan of Biedrins at all. his free thrown shooting is unreal.

unstopaball12 wrote:my question to you briggs is, does d antoni feel the same way you do with whiteside? also how is his offense skills? im okay with a camby/barron at the center position
and also how can you say that rubio wnt fit here when its a point guard that makes system go?

Id rather have Whiteside than Rubio--not close.

unstopaball12 wrote:point guard is the most important position in his system and rubio i believe would be the best bet(if minnesota wins the lottery and lands john wall). He has good defensive instincts and is a magician with the ball. Not only will rubio solve our problems in the backcourt he saves us money. by getting him we wont run after felton, livingston or ridnour nand offer 4-8 million of capspace

That s all and good but if we dont put defense as a priority--we will not win championships or in our case win 41 games.

BRIGGS wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:point guard is the most important position in his system and rubio i believe would be the best bet(if minnesota wins the lottery and lands john wall). He has good defensive instincts and is a magician with the ball. Not only will rubio solve our problems in the backcourt he saves us money. by getting him we wont run after felton, livingston or ridnour nand offer 4-8 million of capspace

That s all and good but if we dont put defense as a priority--we will not win championships or in our case win 41 games.

we will never put defense as a priority with mda coaching. maybe we should accept this and drop the "if's" from these statements.

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

unstopaball12 wrote:point guard is the most important position in his system and rubio i believe would be the best bet(if minnesota wins the lottery and lands john wall). He has good defensive instincts and is a magician with the ball. Not only will rubio solve our problems in the backcourt he saves us money. by getting him we wont run after felton, livingston or ridnour nand offer 4-8 million of capspace

That s all and good but if we dont put defense as a priority--we will not win championships or in our case win 41 games.

we will never put defense as a priority with mda coaching. maybe we should accept this and drop the "if's" from these statements.

i am trying to wrestle with this type of assessment. For the most part, we all know MDA's history with his PHO team; none of us have really tried to draw any type of conclusions from his many multiple Euro league wins (was it SSOL with no D? or SSOL with masterful D?), for better or worse.

If we take Riley and JVG snapshots of their time in NY, we could come to the conclusion for both of these coaches didnt know how to run up on offensive play, as demonstrated by their lack of offense and emphasis on defense. Generally speaking, both JVG and Riley emphasized what their personnel excelled in, namely defense, while eking out the best they could on the other end. Can we say that the coaches didn't know how to coach on the offensive end or that they focused on getting the best out of what their players were good at? Seems like Riley throws off the theory that he didn't know how to coach a team that could put up points - LA Lakers and whatnot - so why couldn't he make the Knicks a better offensive team?

During MDA's coaching reign in PHO, did he EVER have a defensive center to put next to Amare? Was this his fault or the GMs? Also, we know that 2 of his main cogs were Amare and Nash. Were either of those guys known as defensive players? Are they today? I'd say No and No. 2 out of 5 and nary a defensive presence at the center position. Steven Hunter, Lampe, Bo Outlaw, Thomas, Pat Burke, Brian Grant. That's who MDA had to work with.

AND, to top it off, MDA's teams were battling against perhaps the 2 most dominant centers of all time: Shaq and Tim Duncan.

Was this a bad defensive coach or a coach who just didn't have the pieces to play with?

Very well said....I agree to an extent. MDA never had the defensive stoppers on his team with the exception of Bell (who got extended minutes) and Kurt Thomas for a season (show also played big minutes). However, MDA is an offensive guy, and I think he prefers to have 5 guys that can put the ball in the basket consistantly.

He understands their needs to be some kind of balance on both sides of the ball but it will be an uneven balance similar to Rileys Knicks. We were great on defense and barely above average on offense. MDA would prefer to br great on offense (top 3 in the league) and okay on defense (middle of the pack which is where most of his Suns teams were) The key is to get stops when you need them down the stretch. Last years Lakers team was middle of the pack defensively (16 0r 17 I believe). So we dont have to be like Riley's Knicks or the Bad-boys Pistons to win a chip.