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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/14/2010 7:51 PM
This notion that Gallo was already hurt has never been substantiated. To me it's just rumor and more importantly he got stronger as the season went along even after a slight dip that had people concerned. Gallo had more of an adjustment to make coming from another part of the world and a totally different style of ball. Randolph has been playing in American styled Ball for years and he didn't start his NBA career hurt. I think both guys bring some similar skills, but Randolph has more physical talent, while I feel Gallo has some pretty solid skills overall. As I've said I'd LOVE to get Randolph away from GS. IF they don't appreciate him, then send him here.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
4/14/2010 8:07 PM
Gallo played against grown men since he was 16 overseas against euro's and americans,Randolph has been playing with kids until he came into the NBA. Gallo has tons of more experience
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
4/14/2010 9:08 PM
nixluva wrote:This notion that Gallo was already hurt has never been substantiated. To me it's just rumor and more importantly he got stronger as the season went along even after a slight dip that had people concerned. Gallo had more of an adjustment to make coming from another part of the world and a totally different style of ball. Randolph has been playing in American styled Ball for years and he didn't start his NBA career hurt. I think both guys bring some similar skills, but Randolph has more physical talent, while I feel Gallo has some pretty solid skills overall. As I've said I'd LOVE to get Randolph away from GS. IF they don't appreciate him, then send him here. Wait a minute. You're the guy that told me that the EL is a better league/association than the NCAA and prepares guys better for the NBA. What happened in these two years to change that opinion? And where is this they don't appreciate Randolph stuff coming from? It's that slush Nellie who is looking to drag down everybody with him. I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41010 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
4/14/2010 9:13 PM
playa2 wrote:Gallo played against grown men since he was 16 overseas against euro's and americans,Randolph has been playing with kids until he came into the NBA. Gallo has tons of more experience still nothing good to say about gallo? even you have to admit his game has rounded out and his play has improved as the year went on. "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/14/2010 9:20 PM LAST EDITED: 4/14/2010 9:22 PM
Pharzeone wrote:Anthony Randolph is still in the mold of KG for me and Gallo is on a path similar to JR Smith. I look at the entire game not just periods for production. jr smith?? take two and pass that ish... gallo is easily a more complete player right now. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
4/14/2010 9:26 PM
PresIke wrote:Pharzeone wrote:Anthony Randolph is still in the mold of KG for me and Gallo is on a path similar to JR Smith. I look at the entire game not just periods for production. Excuse you? Hang on to your pillow. JR Smith puts up better stats and dare I say it. Oh yeah, I do. Is more consistent than Gallo. Both are streak shooters to the max. You never know what you get from them from period to period. They can shoot in and out of games. Live and die with the 3. You now may release. I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/14/2010 9:28 PM
jr smith puts up better stats but c'mon gallo has a more complete offensive game. maybe i'm crazy, but that's what i see.
i agree, gallo and jr are streak 3 point shooters at this point, but i think gallo can be a more complete player than smith who's game is already determined, i think. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
4/14/2010 9:43 PM
PresIke wrote:jr smith puts up better stats but c'mon gallo has a more complete offensive game. maybe i'm crazy, but that's what i see. Recall that it wasn't long ago that people where calling JR the next. Similar skills to Kobe but needed to be more consistent. This is perhaps his best season and still consistently is an issue. Check out his home vs. away games. Big difference. Sounds familiar. Gallo is younger at this point so who knows but I pointed out whose game he reminds me of and right now it's JR Smith. Great when they are on though. SMH when they aren't. I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/14/2010 9:50 PM
i hear you, but i do think gallo is a more well rounded offensive player than smith. do i think he'll be a superstar? not saying that. just that smith does not show the same prowess, to me, in other areas like going to the basket...and including defense, to which gallo is def better. but i want to see gallo improve. i think he sees himself as more than a shooter, which smith seems fine with. we'll all just have to see how much gallo does.
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 1/25/2010 Member: #3051 USA |
4/14/2010 9:50 PM
You are comparing a veteran (he IS a veteran now, in case you didn't realize) to a guy practically playing his rookie season in the NBA. I think you're way off in this comparison. Why not just wait a few more years before slapping a label on a guy?
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/14/2010 10:15 PM LAST EDITED: 4/14/2010 10:17 PM
Gallo in his second year after recovering from an injury, moved from 2.4 ft's (at 20 yrs old) a game per 36 min to 4.0 ft's a game in year 2 (21).
Smith, in his third year, at 21 moved from 3.1 year 1 (19) to 3.7 in year 2 (20) to 3.1 in year 3 (21) per 36 min. and to further concur with Childs2Dudley... smith as a rookie had a ts% (which factors in 3's and ft) .478, .515 as a 2nd year player and .585 as a 3rd year player (same age as Gallo) gallo shot .621 as a rookie and then .576 as a 2nd year player. smith in his 3rd, 4th and 5th year shot under or near what gallo has done (.585, .603, .576) but has dipped this year to .515. so in smith's first years at either the same age, or with more years experience, he didn't even do as well as gallo did in his first two, in the main areas you appear to be comparing their games. so.. the stats show some similarities, but it seems that gallo is tracking to be better already around the same age, and less experience in the league, and coming off an injury as a rookie than smith (who also missed several games his 2nd and 3rd years). it's too early to say, but to say he is tracking to be jr smith seems too wide of a margin in terms of what they offer to say they track as similar players, from what the stats appear to suggest without using something like SPSS. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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CHAOS
Posts: 20961 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 12/1/2009 Member: #3002 |
4/14/2010 10:35 PM
Randolph = 11pts / 6rebs / 1blk
Gallinari = 15pts / 5rebs / .7blk
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/14/2010 10:43 PM
I would say we could use Anthony Randolph--he's got first team all NBA defensive potential. Gallinari could be a guy who could avg 23 /25 points Lopez is a 20-10-2.5 C---each has a great deal of + and some -. As long as each guy can stay healthy I don't think there is a winner or loser out of those 3.
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
4/14/2010 10:53 PM
PresIke wrote:Gallo in his second year after recovering from an injury, moved from 2.4 ft's (at 20 yrs old) a game per 36 min to 4.0 ft's a game in year 2 (21). Are sure on those stats. Where is Gallo FG% coming from? Because that isn't accurate. I said that their games are similar. Keep in mind the amount of minutes Gallo has been given compared to that of JR. Some don't want to hear it but it my opinion of his game. LOL, when did JR Smith become a bad guy to be compared to. This site was lusting after him for a number of years. Also, I wouldn't use TS% because in his rookie season he primarily shot threes. You need to actually state how many shots were threes compared to the amount of shots he took. I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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Pharzeone
Posts: 32183 Alba Posts: 14 Joined: 2/11/2005 Member: #871 |
4/14/2010 11:03 PM
CHAOS wrote:Randolph = 11pts / 6rebs / 1blk LOL, the guy has been out since January but like I said one is welcome to now compare the two. Last year no one wanted to do that when Gallo back was an issue. No one to compare numbers when he was averaging 15 points, 10 rebounds in about 30 minutes. When you add stats make should to include MPG. Very important. I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/14/2010 11:57 PM
Pharzeone wrote:nixluva wrote:This notion that Gallo was already hurt has never been substantiated. To me it's just rumor and more importantly he got stronger as the season went along even after a slight dip that had people concerned. Gallo had more of an adjustment to make coming from another part of the world and a totally different style of ball. Randolph has been playing in American styled Ball for years and he didn't start his NBA career hurt. I think both guys bring some similar skills, but Randolph has more physical talent, while I feel Gallo has some pretty solid skills overall. As I've said I'd LOVE to get Randolph away from GS. IF they don't appreciate him, then send him here. I think the Euro League is a good league and there are MEN playing in that league, but you have to allow for an adjustment to a totally different focus. Try and make a case for the different levels of play you see in the NCAA's between the different conferences. Go ahead and make a case that all of those conferences offer the same level of competition you'd see in the League Gallo played in. You know that some of those conferences don't have any real talent and it's still a bunch of kids. The EL is a pro league. Gallo was picked due to his potential not that he was as good as he was ever going to be like many of the guys in his league. The only thing I mentioned is that it's gonna be an adjustment period going to another country, culture and style of play. Don't make it sound like he should just be able to come over and everything is exactly the same so he'd need no adjustment to anything. It's a bigger jump from EL to NBA than it is from NCAA to EL in terms of how guys in this country are taught to play and overall style of play. The thing is that Randolph and Gallo both have a lot to learn but have shown clear evidence of their pedigree. The only thing many of us asked was not to hold Gallo's 1st year against him considering how his back hindered him in addition to making all the usual adjustments any player makes coming into the NBA. |
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
4/15/2010 12:03 AM
i think the Knicks made the right selection
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
4/15/2010 12:06 AM
playa2 wrote:Gallo played against grown men since he was 16 overseas against euro's and americans,Randolph has been playing with kids until he came into the NBA. Gallo has tons of more experience Very true. He has. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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