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Ramon Sessions vs Toney Douglas - Revisited


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Markji
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A full season has gone by since the Ramon Sessions debate and possible signing. And a full season (really half a season) to evaluate Toney Douglas. So, now after a year, who would you rather have on the team going into 2010?
Note: This doesn't necessarily mean as starting PG, it could be as back-up.
Ramon Sessions
Toney Douglas
Either one, they are equal
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PresIke
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4/14/2010  8:24 PM
well i liked the idea of signing sessions TO A DEAL THAT MADE SENSE, once it became clear it would be an issue for cap space, i was hesitantly supportive of not signing the dude.

but i do recall some folks going ballistic about not making the move.

anyway, now the hindsight tells us good thing we didn't sign him.

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Bippity10
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4/15/2010  1:32 AM
I think Sessions can play. But passing on signing him meant nothing to us as an organization. It was an inconsequential move
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4/15/2010  7:14 AM
not sure if it would have been inconsequential, because it certainly would have hurt our cap figure going into this summer.

right now, we have a good shot at having enough space to sign to max fa's. with sessions, it would have been that much harder, at least numbers wise.

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4/15/2010  8:26 AM
regardless of contract- what does a year of Sessions vs. Douglas now say about Walsh & MDA?

Wasn't it MDA pushing for Sessions? And Walsh was considering signing him?

I look at this and think WTF were they thinking?

Its one thing for a bunch of knucklehead fans like us to covet players- but we don't get paid good money to evaluate talent.

Ultimately Walsh made the right move, but, was it because he was just slightly outbid?

I mean, we might very well have signed sessions for $12m for 4 years- and watched D'Antoni proceed to fall out of love with his newest pet.

And then we'd have to have traded another draft pick or two just to move him at the deadline!

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4/15/2010  9:40 AM
franco12 wrote:regardless of contract- what does a year of Sessions vs. Douglas now say about Walsh & MDA?

Wasn't it MDA pushing for Sessions? And Walsh was considering signing him?

I look at this and think WTF were they thinking?

Its one thing for a bunch of knucklehead fans like us to covet players- but we don't get paid good money to evaluate talent.

Ultimately Walsh made the right move, but, was it because he was just slightly outbid?

I mean, we might very well have signed sessions for $12m for 4 years- and watched D'Antoni proceed to fall out of love with his newest pet.

And then we'd have to have traded another draft pick or two just to move him at the deadline!

So you are killing Walsh and D'Antoni for being interested in a guy???

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martin
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4/15/2010  9:46 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
franco12 wrote:regardless of contract- what does a year of Sessions vs. Douglas now say about Walsh & MDA?

Wasn't it MDA pushing for Sessions? And Walsh was considering signing him?

I look at this and think WTF were they thinking?

Its one thing for a bunch of knucklehead fans like us to covet players- but we don't get paid good money to evaluate talent.

Ultimately Walsh made the right move, but, was it because he was just slightly outbid?

I mean, we might very well have signed sessions for $12m for 4 years- and watched D'Antoni proceed to fall out of love with his newest pet.

And then we'd have to have traded another draft pick or two just to move him at the deadline!

So you are killing Walsh and D'Antoni for being interested in a guy???

kill someone for showing interest and making the right decision in hindsight.

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Markji
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4/15/2010  10:20 AM
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
franco12 wrote:regardless of contract- what does a year of Sessions vs. Douglas now say about Walsh & MDA?

Wasn't it MDA pushing for Sessions? And Walsh was considering signing him?

I look at this and think WTF were they thinking?

Its one thing for a bunch of knucklehead fans like us to covet players- but we don't get paid good money to evaluate talent.

Ultimately Walsh made the right move, but, was it because he was just slightly outbid?

I mean, we might very well have signed sessions for $12m for 4 years- and watched D'Antoni proceed to fall out of love with his newest pet.

And then we'd have to have traded another draft pick or two just to move him at the deadline!

So you are killing Walsh and D'Antoni for being interested in a guy???

kill someone for showing interest and making the right decision in hindsight.


"Showing interest" doesn't mean anything. This is Walsh's method of operating. A lot of it is a smokescreen and a lot of it is doing "Due Diligence" - making sure of the player's abilities or non-abilities. Makes for lots of good articles from the sports writers.

We must have "shown interest" in at least 20+ players this past year including D-League, Summer League, available veterans, players coming back from injuries, etc. And how many players did we sign - only Bender and no real advance notice on that, and we made a good offer to Grant Hill which was rejected. So one can't say that Walsh was really interested in Sessions?? Who really knows?

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4/15/2010  10:49 AM
Markji wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
franco12 wrote:regardless of contract- what does a year of Sessions vs. Douglas now say about Walsh & MDA?

Wasn't it MDA pushing for Sessions? And Walsh was considering signing him?

I look at this and think WTF were they thinking?

Its one thing for a bunch of knucklehead fans like us to covet players- but we don't get paid good money to evaluate talent.

Ultimately Walsh made the right move, but, was it because he was just slightly outbid?

I mean, we might very well have signed sessions for $12m for 4 years- and watched D'Antoni proceed to fall out of love with his newest pet.

And then we'd have to have traded another draft pick or two just to move him at the deadline!

So you are killing Walsh and D'Antoni for being interested in a guy???

kill someone for showing interest and making the right decision in hindsight.


"Showing interest" doesn't mean anything. This is Walsh's method of operating. A lot of it is a smokescreen and a lot of it is doing "Due Diligence" - making sure of the player's abilities or non-abilities. Makes for lots of good articles from the sports writers.

We must have "shown interest" in at least 20+ players this past year including D-League, Summer League, available veterans, players coming back from injuries, etc. And how many players did we sign - only Bender and no real advance notice on that, and we made a good offer to Grant Hill which was rejected. So one can't say that Walsh was really interested in Sessions?? Who really knows?

Great point......Yet another fan inventing a way to make themselves angry.

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Ramon Sessions vs Toney Douglas - Revisited

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