loweyecue wrote:

kam77 wrote:To think we could've locked him up for like 7mil avg a couple years ago. SMH

And we would have had ourselves a very good BENCH player at the cost of getting ourselves real starters. I am glad we didn't lock him up.

Laughable that some people still call Lee a bench player. If Lees a bench player then there are only 10-15 real starters in the league.

SMH.

firefly wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

kam77 wrote:To think we could've locked him up for like 7mil avg a couple years ago. SMH

And we would have had ourselves a very good BENCH player at the cost of getting ourselves real starters. I am glad we didn't lock him up.

Laughable that some people still call Lee a bench player. If Lees a bench player then there are only 10-15 real starters in the league.

SMH.

So, um, for you Lee is the 11th-16th (or so) best player in the league?

Watch much NBA basketball, do ya?

nychamp wrote:

firefly wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

kam77 wrote:To think we could've locked him up for like 7mil avg a couple years ago. SMH

And we would have had ourselves a very good BENCH player at the cost of getting ourselves real starters. I am glad we didn't lock him up.

Laughable that some people still call Lee a bench player. If Lees a bench player then there are only 10-15 real starters in the league.

SMH.

So, um, for you Lee is the 11th-16th (or so) best player in the league?

Watch much NBA basketball, do ya?

Im not at all saying that. Besides, there are positions to consider, and Lee can only play 2 out of 5. Is Lee the 11th-16th best frontcourt player in the league? Theres an arguement to say he's even better then that. How many people are consistently and provably better? 20-11-3 is pretty elite.

Duncan
Howard
Bosh
maybe Bogut
Gasol
Nowitzki
Randolph (and who wants that coldsore?)
I wouldnt include Garnett anymore, but to exclude wouldnt be cool.

Youre really struggling after that.

knicks1248 wrote:

firefly wrote:

nychamp wrote:

firefly wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

kam77 wrote:To think we could've locked him up for like 7mil avg a couple years ago. SMH

And we would have had ourselves a very good BENCH player at the cost of getting ourselves real starters. I am glad we didn't lock him up.

Laughable that some people still call Lee a bench player. If Lees a bench player then there are only 10-15 real starters in the league.

SMH.

So, um, for you Lee is the 11th-16th (or so) best player in the league?

Watch much NBA basketball, do ya?

Im not at all saying that. Besides, there are positions to consider, and Lee can only play 2 out of 5. Is Lee the 11th-16th best frontcourt player in the league? Theres an arguement to say he's even better then that. How many people are consistently and provably better? 20-11-3 is pretty elite.

Duncan
Howard
Bosh
maybe Bogut
Gasol
Nowitzki
Randolph (and who wants that coldsore?)
I wouldnt include Garnett anymore, but to exclude wouldnt be cool.

Youre really struggling after that.

You have little leverage at the negotiating table when those numbers produce 5 losing seasons.

I absolutely agree that Lee isnt a max player or even a near max player. But I cant understand why people think Amare Stoudamire is and Lee isnt. If Lee isnt (and I believe he isnt) then nor is Amare. Wheres the ring saying how good he is? He has a better supporting cast (i.e. Nash and the 3 little pigs are a better supporting cast) so why isnt he winning anything? I truly hope DW doesnt get sucked into the Amare hype and pay him the maximum. NY fans would hate him after the initial high.

loweyecue wrote:ONLY way David Lee figures in a championship contending starting 5 is if the other 4 are league leaders in defense in their individual categories. Don't look at how many points he scores without looking at how many he gives up. God knows how often we have had this same discussion here?

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

loweyecue wrote:ONLY way David Lee figures in a championship contending starting 5 is if the other 4 are league leaders in defense in their individual categories. Don't look at how many points he scores without looking at how many he gives up. God knows how often we have had this same discussion here?

keep discussing it because your wrong. Lee outscores, outrebounds and shoots a higher % than his opponents. Look it up

Have you kept track of how many lay-up's, dunks and open jumpers David Lee gave up this season? If he outscored all of his assignements, why are we going to end up with 30 wins again?

Because this year alone he played with Chris Duhon, Darko Milicic, Larry Hughes, Nate Robinson and Eddy Curry. Nobodies idea of a braintrust. Dont get me started on previous years. Im not saying Lee is the best player in the universe, far from it, but to blame this tems woes on him is like blaming the cows for not having milk on your doorstep. The guy did his job. Cant say the same for most of the rest of the team.

iSergio wrote:

fishmike wrote:

loweyecue wrote:ONLY way David Lee figures in a championship contending starting 5 is if the other 4 are league leaders in defense in their individual categories. Don't look at how many points he scores without looking at how many he gives up. God knows how often we have had this same discussion here?

keep discussing it because your wrong. Lee outscores, outrebounds and shoots a higher % than his opponents. Look it up

Have you kept track of how many lay-up's, dunks and open jumpers David Lee gave up this season? If he outscored all of his assignements, why are we going to end up with 30 wins again?