Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I been watching as well...I'm down with it Briggs

The guy is simply healed--that is the bottom line. He may have lost slight lateral speed but I see no lost vertical--never a guy who could sky but he can still get up. But forgetting all of that--this is a mature 24 year old 6-7 PG who has triple double capabilities and can shoot 50%. We have 34mm+ $ to spend--unless the name LBJ comes here--why in God s green earth would I spend 34mm on two other player--wade is a Heat--going no where. Ill spend 6mm on Livingston and pencil him in at the starting PG--he's been playing 40+ minutes but we really dont need him to do that. We really could use a PG who can do 30-32 minutes we haev TD coming back and either we draft a PG or bring in a vet min like Duhon or even both--I mean we have 15 roster spots and we were thin on PG's.

Think about this for one second--your a team like Dallas--you have no cap room--you could literally coupo the FA market using your MLE and being aggressive with it with Shaun and win FA on a $-$ basis production. He's gets a potential star for chicken feed.

I don't know about you dudes but I would throw up if we gave Joe Johnson 5 years 85mm. If you break that cash up and bring in a Livingston at 6--you could also resign Lee--and still have 18mm to spend.

The main positions that need to be improved --C PG 6th Man that does not include resigning david Lee]--then find out what we need for a diversified bench. We lose Lee than we have no frontourt players. If we ended up with lee Bosh Barron and a 6-10 240 PF draft pick --we'd have a deeper more diversified frontcourt. I think it possible to take care of a 6th man using Curry's contract we could spend 6mm on Livingston--and go a series of 1 yr contracts so wed be back in FA in 2011 if needed.

6 million on a guy who has proven jack **** in the NBA? Why? What's your reasoning? A small sample size for a lottery team? He hasn't even been that impressive. If you want to sign him to the minimum I can understand but no way do I give this guy $6 million when he hasn't done anything to earn it and has a major injury in his past. I'd sign him to the minimum to be a backup on our team with the possibility of starting should we find no better options. But that's about it.

Lee in any frontcourt is automatically the worst defensively in the NBA. Lee is not worth the money he will ask for. He is not a difference-maker in the league.

I'm not even sure why we're mentioning Barron. He's another guy playing well for a crap team. There's no guarantee he even comes back next year and he's 29.

Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson would be a great offseason if we can't sign LeBron or Wade. I'd much rather have that combo than Lee, Bosh and Livingston. Sorry, that doesn't work for me at all.

No way would I want to pay two max FA's if one is not named LBJ. Orlando did that once and it killed them for 6-7years. 1 injury will JJ in his 30's he's were scrwd. Paying Livingston 1/3 for two years is much better business. If Livingston is hurt the contract can be absorbed.

tkf wrote:I think you are on the money with this one briggs.. His numbers looked good, but why don't I hear everyone saying it is a meaningless game, alte in the season.. LOL... J/k

but seriously, I would take the plunge on livingtson, always liked him. great, talent..

Livingston has already shown he is a capable NBA player. Teams just needed to see if he was healthy to return to form.

BRIGGS wrote:No way would I want to pay two max FA's if one is not named LBJ. Orlando did that once and it killed them for 6-7years. 1 injury will JJ in his 30's he's were scrwd. Paying Livingston 1/3 for two years is much better business. If Livingston is hurt the contract can be absorbed.

i'm with you, i don't want to pay 2 max FA's unless 1 of them is Lebron or Wade... if we don't get 1 of those guys i would much rather build up a team with sensible signings for high value targets & create a team built around depth & team balance, & keep our options open for 2011 when Melo hits the market or a possible trade can happen for CP3 using some of the players we acquire this summer.

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Livingston is only 24 and was the 4th pick in the draft. He is a major talent if he is healthy and back from that surgery. It appears that he is and he could be a steal for the Knicks.

Im willing to go 3 years 18.5mm with 10 of it guaranteed in the first two years.

Who would you sign to accompany him in the backcourt. Given his history with injuries, I wouldn't feel comfortable handing him the keys to the offense.

I think that we will have Duhon back on a min contract. Listen--you ahev this guy killing Rondo playing 42 minutes--played big minutes multiple times. Grant Hill came back and seems to keep getting better and he's 13 years older than Shaun.

why do u think Grant Hill can come back & keep getting better but T-Mac is done? just curious... Hill looked more finished to me than any other player & he's looking pretty good right now playing in Phoenix... same with McDyess... T-Mac is only 30 years old i don't think he's finished for good.