CrushAlot wrote:Weren't there any more grizzled vets to take a chance on?

TMS wrote:we needed a shotblocking big & we bring up a 7 footer that doesn't block shots... makes perfect sense to me.

ROFL.

TMS wrote:a 7 footer that doesn't block shots... should fit in perfectly

LMAO.

I know the question we're all asking in our heads. Can he shoot the 3?

ROFL at Walsh continuing to get players that the coach has no interest in. I'm starting to see what some have been saying about this. Yet I'm willing to give it next season before I jump on the "String Mike up by his balls" bandwagon.

nixluva wrote:All I can think about is how inept Ainge looked before he got KG n Allen! He was getting KILLED just before those moves. Just proves how much perceptions can change in a short time with the right moves. We'll see!

Difference was Ainge stockpiled young talent and kept his own draft picks every year.

This put them in a position to make a trade with a former team mate.

We have cap room, but little else.

Ainge never gambled like Walsh has. He is all in for this summer. If Ainge had missed out on the KG trade, he would have kept developing his youth, and might have found another trade later to make if he had needed.

When Walsh swings and misses with Lebron, we get to over pay for 2nd tier talent like Joe Johnson who won't make 1 bit of difference to our won loss record.

franco12 wrote:

nixluva wrote:All I can think about is how inept Ainge looked before he got KG n Allen! He was getting KILLED just before those moves. Just proves how much perceptions can change in a short time with the right moves. We'll see!

Difference was Ainge stockpiled young talent and kept his own draft picks every year.

This put them in a position to make a trade with a former team mate.

We have cap room, but little else.

Ainge never gambled like Walsh has. He is all in for this summer. If Ainge had missed out on the KG trade, he would have kept developing his youth, and might have found another trade later to make if he had needed.

When Walsh swings and misses with Lebron, we get to over pay for 2nd tier talent like Joe Johnson who won't make 1 bit of difference to our won loss record.

We still have plenty of assets.

We can S&T Lee or Harrington or TMac or Duhon....
We have Chandler and Douglas...
We have a 2014 1st rounder (lol)
We can absorb salary.

We have plenty to make a trade work. Any trade we can do today can be done without Jordan Hill or the 2012 pick. We can make it work.

Finestrg wrote:Hey I'm not gonna rip the guy, he looks like a fairly active 7 footer, but seriously, was this the best big to bring up from the D-League?? This was the best we could do? You got 6'11" Dwayne Jones leading the NBDL in rebounding and triple-doubles (and going for almost 18 ppg and 1.77 bpg as well) and you got strong/active PF Alexander Johnson going for over 20 & 10 (I thought the idea was to replace a banged up Al Harrington in the lineup - Johnson seems to be a more suitable replacement -- but then there's Al playing last night, so who the hell knows anymore)..Just going by the numbers because I don't know much about Barron, he doesn't even seem to be a shot-blocking presence and to me that's what we need most right now -- just look at last night's debacle in Golden State --- same old story - we manage to score some points but leave the front door wide open and roll out the red carpet for opposing players to come right in and score at will. No resistance at all. It's really been sickening to watch all year, thank God it'll be over soon...Jones & Johnson are about 2 years younger than this cat and more productive. WTF - If you're gonna call up guys from the D-League, go get the best. Golden State calls up the NBDL's leading scorer in Reggie Williams, San Antonio goes to great lengths to secure & stash away arguably the D-League's top PG, Curtis Jerrells, and we get......wait for it.....wait for it.....Earl Barron!?! Journeyman center extraordinaire...Hey even if they don't like Jones and Johnson for whatever reason, fine. Go get me the premier shot-blocker in the NBDL then (Wisconsin's Greg Stiemsma - 3.5 bpg in only 27 mins. [6.1 per 48 mins.]) and see if his defensive skills can translate to the NBA...There's a ton of guys I would've looked at before this dude: there's a young 6'11" shot-blocker named Mickell Gladness that's very intriguing, a 6'10" shooter/rebounder that's similar to Gallinari I like named Rob Kurz, I like 2G Mike Gansey, etc... I don't know man -- if they're not interested in bringing up & investigating the top guys available or at least guys that have some specialty-type skills that we could use, guys that may actually fit & wind up sticking, then don't even bother you know? It's like they make moves to bring up guys at the end of the season and then to put together their summer league squads with little or no thought behind them, while other teams always manage to grab all the diamonds right from under our nose.

Totally agree. The next time the Knicks find a D-league player or undrafted rookie that actually turns into a good player will be the first time in over 15 years. If the plan is to sign two max players and give away our draft picks, then finding diamonds in the rough among the d-leage players is a must. Yet, we just bring up a low-ceiling guy like Barron. Walsh shows not creativity. Every move is just playing it safe, which has cost us greatly in having to deal Hill and draft picks at the last minute.

TheGame wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Hey I'm not gonna rip the guy, he looks like a fairly active 7 footer, but seriously, was this the best big to bring up from the D-League?? This was the best we could do? You got 6'11" Dwayne Jones leading the NBDL in rebounding and triple-doubles (and going for almost 18 ppg and 1.77 bpg as well) and you got strong/active PF Alexander Johnson going for over 20 & 10 (I thought the idea was to replace a banged up Al Harrington in the lineup - Johnson seems to be a more suitable replacement -- but then there's Al playing last night, so who the hell knows anymore)..Just going by the numbers because I don't know much about Barron, he doesn't even seem to be a shot-blocking presence and to me that's what we need most right now -- just look at last night's debacle in Golden State --- same old story - we manage to score some points but leave the front door wide open and roll out the red carpet for opposing players to come right in and score at will. No resistance at all. It's really been sickening to watch all year, thank God it'll be over soon...Jones & Johnson are about 2 years younger than this cat and more productive. WTF - If you're gonna call up guys from the D-League, go get the best. Golden State calls up the NBDL's leading scorer in Reggie Williams, San Antonio goes to great lengths to secure & stash away arguably the D-League's top PG, Curtis Jerrells, and we get......wait for it.....wait for it.....Earl Barron!?! Journeyman center extraordinaire...Hey even if they don't like Jones and Johnson for whatever reason, fine. Go get me the premier shot-blocker in the NBDL then (Wisconsin's Greg Stiemsma - 3.5 bpg in only 27 mins. [6.1 per 48 mins.]) and see if his defensive skills can translate to the NBA...There's a ton of guys I would've looked at before this dude: there's a young 6'11" shot-blocker named Mickell Gladness that's very intriguing, a 6'10" shooter/rebounder that's similar to Gallinari I like named Rob Kurz, I like 2G Mike Gansey, etc... I don't know man -- if they're not interested in bringing up & investigating the top guys available or at least guys that have some specialty-type skills that we could use, guys that may actually fit & wind up sticking, then don't even bother you know? It's like they make moves to bring up guys at the end of the season and then to put together their summer league squads with little or no thought behind them, while other teams always manage to grab all the diamonds right from under our nose.

Totally agree. The next time the Knicks find a D-league player or undrafted rookie that actually turns into a good player will be the first time in over 15 years. If the plan is to sign two max players and give away our draft picks, then finding diamonds in the rough among the d-leage players is a must. Yet, we just bring up a low-ceiling guy like Barron. Walsh shows not creativity. Every move is just playing it safe, which has cost us greatly in having to deal Hill and draft picks at the last minute.

Barron may be a better fit that any of those guys. Walsh is paying attention to fit. Not just stats.

franco12 wrote:Did he get any time in the second half last night?