[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

I'm Gallo convinced now
Author Thread
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
3/31/2010  9:14 AM
BRIGGS wrote:How about concentrate on taking good shots and passing/rebounding the ball a bit more. It's a team game--you didn't miss a wide open lay up to lose the game by 1 point--this is youthful grandstanding--I don't think it's intentional but certainly isnt necessary.
The Knicks rely on his offense and his shooting. No, he's not the leading scorer but they need him to knock down those open 3's when defenders collapse.

The guy is playing very very hard on defense. He's not getting a lot of rebounds but is anyone playing harder on defense?

We know he is studying film on other teams to better defend. He's basically taking on the other team's better scoring players. He's not locking anyone down but he's got pretty solid fundmentals. Even when Carmello was lighting it up what made it so impressive was that Gallo challenged every shot.

Look.. the guy has work to do. He's 21 and hasnt played a 100 games in the league yet. 9 months ago Briggs you were destroying management daily for drafting a kid with a bum back that may or may not have a career as a shooting role player in the league. Now we critisizing his defense on Deron Williams and Carmello Anthony. The guy is a good player now and people around the league are noticing.

He's taking his licks now and thats fine. The guy is becoming player. Enjoy the process.

Anyone think the group of Chandler, Gallo, Lee and Douglas are worth keeping together? They seem pretty hungry to get better and improve

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
AUTOADVERT
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
3/31/2010  9:17 AM
Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

I just hope that people will like me
iSergio
Posts: 21499
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/13/2010
Member: #3043
USA
3/31/2010  9:19 AM
I'm not high on Danilo Gallinari - I don't think he'll be a SuperStar - but I do appreciate his effort defensively as a fan. You can tell he truly cares and wants to improve. Let's hope stays healthy and continues to develop into more than just a spot-up shooter.
Bippity10
Posts: 13999
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/26/2004
Member: #574
3/31/2010  9:25 AM
iSergio wrote:I'm not high on Danilo Gallinari - I don't think he'll be a SuperStar - but I do appreciate his effort defensively as a fan. You can tell he truly cares and wants to improve. Let's hope stays healthy and continues to develop into more than just a spot-up shooter.

I don't think Gallo, Chandler, Douglas or Walker will be superstars. But they all have the makings of very good players on a good team. I am therefore high on them. Not everyone can be a star.

I just hope that people will like me
iSergio
Posts: 21499
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/13/2010
Member: #3043
USA
3/31/2010  9:37 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'm not high on Danilo Gallinari - I don't think he'll be a SuperStar - but I do appreciate his effort defensively as a fan. You can tell he truly cares and wants to improve. Let's hope stays healthy and continues to develop into more than just a spot-up shooter.

I don't think Gallo, Chandler, Douglas or Walker will be superstars. But they all have the makings of very good players on a good team. I am therefore high on them. Not everyone can be a star.

I'm with you there - I think Danilo Gallinari can be a rotation player on a very good team. When I say I'm not high on him, I do mean I'm not high on him ending up as a Star. I just don't think Gallo has that talent. Nothing wrong with that! Gallo at the very worst can be a super 6th Man like Toni Kukoc or a 3rd scorer/shooter like Peja Stojakovic.

I also like Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas and Bill Walker as role players.

fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
3/31/2010  10:15 AM
Lee just showed that if you show up, act like a pro, work hard on your game and get better every year you can be an allstar. Lee didnt come into the league with much more than a nose for the ball. He was a skilled college player (I believe he was a guard in HS) and was drafted as a hustle rebound guy. Now he's a 20/12/55% all star. So much of what these guys can or cant accomplish is determined by what is between the ears. When you see how hard Gallo plays and how hard he is on himself you have to feel pretty optimistic. This for a kid who couldnt do anything but rehab from back surgery this offseason.

I dont see Gallo (or Lee) being superstar franchise type guys, but I see guys that will make a few appearances in the all star game.

If we sign a star, god forbid we get Lebron, then the people that are calling the Knicks devoid of talent will get a real wakeup call, because hungry players that work like Lee/Gallo look like stars next to someone like Lebron. Winning changes everything. I really hope Gallo and Lee are part of a winning future. I think thats the only thing that will open people's eyes. Kinda like how people realize Crawford and Zach are actually good players.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
djsunyc
Posts: 44929
Alba Posts: 42
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #536
3/31/2010  10:44 AM
didn't chandler do the same thing, only not to the press but his teammates behind closed doors?
Andrew
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #1
USA
3/31/2010  10:47 AM
djsunyc wrote:didn't chandler do the same thing, only not to the press but his teammates behind closed doors?

I don't know...did he?

PURE KNICKS LOVE
Juice
Posts: 21742
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/2/2009
Member: #2968

3/31/2010  10:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2010  10:55 AM
Andrew wrote:
djsunyc wrote:didn't chandler do the same thing, only not to the press but his teammates behind closed doors?

I don't know...did he?

The answer is several posts back in this thread.

knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
3/31/2010  11:13 AM
BRIGGS wrote:How about concentrate on taking good shots and passing/rebounding the ball a bit more. It's a team game--you didn't miss a wide open lay up to lose the game by 1 point--this is youthful grandstanding--I don't think it's intentional but certainly isnt necessary.


Are you making fun of that Xavier chic who miss 2 wide open lay ups in a matter of 5 seconds to lose the game....LOL

ES
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
3/31/2010  11:15 AM
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

Cuase we heard it all before, How can you blame people for not putting much merit in those comments. It works both ways Bip

ES
martin
Posts: 78430
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
3/31/2010  11:43 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

Cuase we heard it all before, How can you blame people for not putting much merit in those comments. It works both ways Bip

it's also up to the reader to discern who and how the comments come about. If you are still taking the same quotes from Curry and believing with hope, you're gonna fail every time.

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Paladin55
Posts: 24321
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/6/2008
Member: #2098

3/31/2010  12:09 PM
How easy is it to spot the posters who disliked Gallinari from the start (from the moment he was drafted), dislike him now, and are unwilling to give him a chance to develop at all, from those posters who take a more patient approach to evaluating young players, realizing that the player you see at point A is not the same one you will see down the road at point B.

The article simply shows that Gallo is aware the key role he has on the Knicks and how important it is for him to play consistently on defense and offense if the Knicks are to win. Beck probably saw Gallo's mea culpa as a breath of fresh air from a player and went with it. Groundbreaking reporting- no- nice personality piece- yes.

The former group of posters will have time over the next few years to be critical of a more mature Gallinari and his finished game, and judge whether he has met their high standards for being a good BB player, but cannot hold back now, and are eager to attack the Italian if he falters in any way during his first real season in the league, or even says something in the press, however innocent, that they can turn around and use against him.

And how is Gallinari "grandstanding" Briggs? You go to the reporter who wrote the story and criticize Beck for asking the questions and developing the story. Gallinari probably felt bad for missing a number of open Js, and let that be known. He played well on D, probably did a better job than Douglas with Williams, and played over 40 M, but lets face it, he had no touch on his shot that night, and if he had shot 5/10 the Knicks might have won the game. You don't think he is aware that he is a key component on the team and has to do more for them to win? I don't consider him to be grandstanding- just accepting responsibility, and in an honest way...

“If I play 42 minutes and I go 1 for 6 from 3, I definitely have to think about this game,” Gallinari said tensely. “I’m on the court and I’m a big part of the offense. So if I shoot the ball bad like that in these type of games – tie games, at the end of the game, you look at the shots – definitely got to blame myself.”

...And as another poster hinted at, how many haters posters would be on him if he had said the "team" has to play better or do this or that without taking personal responsibility for his own part in the loss?

Some folks just can't give this kid a break.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
sebstar
Posts: 25698
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/2/2002
Member: #249
USA
3/31/2010  12:19 PM
tkf wrote:
TMS wrote:wow... a player accepting accountability from this team... i must be dreaming.

for real. and honestly, I think he really means it.. Just not a lot of talk..

D'ivatoni could learn a thing or two.

My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets. --Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

3/31/2010  12:21 PM
Andrew wrote:
djsunyc wrote:didn't chandler do the same thing, only not to the press but his teammates behind closed doors?

I don't know...did he?

yes!!!

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

3/31/2010  12:26 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

No one is saying we don't want him to succeed or get better...All we are saying is we heard it before and it's doesn't mean anything...Just lip service..Not worth to be written about..Tell me after you worked on your game all summer and added new wrinkles like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan has done in their careers and add consistency to your game...People go nuts at Duhon clapping and cheering his team at the end of the bench...Means nothing...

sebstar
Posts: 25698
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/2/2002
Member: #249
USA
3/31/2010  12:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2010  12:31 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

No one is saying we don't want him to succeed or get better...All we are saying is we heard it before and it's doesn't mean anything...Just lip service..Not worth to be written about..Tell me after you worked on your game all summer and added new wrinkles like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan has done in their careers and add consistency to your game...People go nuts at Duhon clapping and cheering his team at the end of the bench...Means nothing...

yeah, but why are we talking about all time greats like Bean, Earvin, and MJ? In the league pretty much every player has to articulate before they can put it into action. Absorb and learn. Cant expect everybody to come in like Lebron.

He's got the right attitude. Thats always good to see.

My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets. --Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
3/31/2010  12:30 PM
Paladin55 wrote:How easy is it to spot the posters who disliked Gallinari from the start (from the moment he was drafted), dislike him now, and are unwilling to give him a chance to develop at all, from those posters who take a more patient approach to evaluating young players, realizing that the player you see at point A is not the same one you will see down the road at point B.

The article simply shows that Gallo is aware the key role he has on the Knicks and how important it is for him to play consistently on defense and offense if the Knicks are to win. Beck probably saw Gallo's mea culpa as a breath of fresh air from a player and went with it. Groundbreaking reporting- no- nice personality piece- yes.

The former group of posters will have time over the next few years to be critical of a more mature Gallinari and his finished game, and judge whether he has met their high standards for being a good BB player, but cannot hold back now, and are eager to attack the Italian if he falters in any way during his first real season in the league, or even says something in the press, however innocent, that they can turn around and use against him.

And how is Gallinari "grandstanding" Briggs? You go to the reporter who wrote the story and criticize Beck for asking the questions and developing the story. Gallinari probably felt bad for missing a number of open Js, and let that be known. He played well on D, probably did a better job than Douglas with Williams, and played over 40 M, but lets face it, he had no touch on his shot that night, and if he had shot 5/10 the Knicks might have won the game. You don't think he is aware that he is a key component on the team and has to do more for them to win? I don't consider him to be grandstanding- just accepting responsibility, and in an honest way...

“If I play 42 minutes and I go 1 for 6 from 3, I definitely have to think about this game,” Gallinari said tensely. “I’m on the court and I’m a big part of the offense. So if I shoot the ball bad like that in these type of games – tie games, at the end of the game, you look at the shots – definitely got to blame myself.”

...And as another poster hinted at, how many haters posters would be on him if he had said the "team" has to play better or do this or that without taking personal responsibility for his own part in the loss?

Some folks just can't give this kid a break.


100% right on. Most people here including myself arent riding his jock at all. We just see some promising signs and look forward to where it leads.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

3/31/2010  12:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2010  12:37 PM
sebstar wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

No one is saying we don't want him to succeed or get better...All we are saying is we heard it before and it's doesn't mean anything...Just lip service..Not worth to be written about..Tell me after you worked on your game all summer and added new wrinkles like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan has done in their careers and add consistency to your game...People go nuts at Duhon clapping and cheering his team at the end of the bench...Means nothing...

yeah, but why are we talking about all time greats like Bean, Earvin, and MJ? In the league pretty much every player has to articulate before they can put it into action. Absorb and learn. Cant expect everybody to come in like Lebron.

He's got the right attitude. Thats always good to see.

Who is saying come in like LeBron or MJ...All I'm saying is work hard...Players in this uniform over the past 10 years have all said it...I have heard it all b4...It doesn't bring a smile to my face anymore...He isn't Lebron nor do I expect him to be...

misterearl
Posts: 38786
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/16/2004
Member: #799
USA
3/31/2010  12:39 PM
I'm convinced that Gallo could play effectively at center. His upper body is thick and he can work on strengthening his base over the summer.

At 6'10 he would afford 6'9 David Lee less wear and tear on defense and his offense can be adapted to an inside-out game. The best part is that if you add 6'11 Chris Bosh at skill forward, the Knicks suddenly have a versatile, ball-handling, willing to defend, frontline that is highly skilled in the art of the jump shot.

once a knick always a knick
I'm Gallo convinced now

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy