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nyk4ever
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3/30/2010  4:03 PM
curry is only an asset to the people who research obesity in this country
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3/30/2010  5:09 PM
nyk4ever wrote:curry is only an asset to the people who research obesity in this country

Toxic asset...

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3/30/2010  5:20 PM
Curry has an fat asset!?

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3/30/2010  5:59 PM
Just pay the fat **** 8M to go away. He will take it. We save an additional 3M off the 2010 summer cap space. 1 hour after he picks up his player option (I think he can do it July 1st) you buy his fat ass out. Who the hell are we going to trade for using him? Is this a legit plan? Fill up the cap this summer and then use Curry to trade for a player of equal salary? What team would trade us a GOOD player for Eddy Curry?
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3/30/2010  6:16 PM
I really doubt we buy out Curry to save 2 million. In all likelihood he is going to be moved for another player with a longer contract. As Fishmike said, we can just buy a pick to include with Curry, but depending on the player that might not even be necessary. We all saw what one year of Jeffries was worth. That was overblown cause of Bron, but still, if we are willing to take back salary we can get a pretty good player for Curry.

I prefer us with One Max and a great supporting cast actually. I don't want Bosh as a Max, but could see him as a great supporting cast, but I think he views himself as a max guy, which he isn't. I'd rather have Lee at 10 million and then have money for another Max the year after. (Which makes me hate the Jeffries trade even more, as Hill was the perfect 5 for this system.)

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3/30/2010  6:18 PM
Cosmic wrote:Just pay the fat **** 8M to go away. He will take it. We save an additional 3M off the 2010 summer cap space. 1 hour after he picks up his player option (I think he can do it July 1st) you buy his fat ass out. Who the hell are we going to trade for using him? Is this a legit plan? Fill up the cap this summer and then use Curry to trade for a player of equal salary? What team would trade us a GOOD player for Eddy Curry?

why is he gonna take less $$$? he can sit around and be hurt and get paid like he has done for 2+ years.

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3/30/2010  6:46 PM
Cosmic wrote:Just pay the fat **** 8M to go away. He will take it. We save an additional 3M off the 2010 summer cap space. 1 hour after he picks up his player option (I think he can do it July 1st) you buy his fat ass out. Who the hell are we going to trade for using him? Is this a legit plan? Fill up the cap this summer and then use Curry to trade for a player of equal salary? What team would trade us a GOOD player for Eddy Curry?

Eddy Curry has no pride or self respect. He's a professional athlete who has allowed himself to end up looking like Gabourey Sidibe. He stole $19M the last 2 years. He doesn't give a damn and won't take a penny less then what he's due next year. If I were Donnie Walsh, I would give Curry his entire salary for next year and tell him to gtfo.

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3/30/2010  9:25 PM
iSergio wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Just pay the fat **** 8M to go away. He will take it. We save an additional 3M off the 2010 summer cap space. 1 hour after he picks up his player option (I think he can do it July 1st) you buy his fat ass out. Who the hell are we going to trade for using him? Is this a legit plan? Fill up the cap this summer and then use Curry to trade for a player of equal salary? What team would trade us a GOOD player for Eddy Curry?

Eddy Curry has no pride or self respect. He's a professional athlete who has allowed himself to end up looking like Gabourey Sidibe. He stole $19M the last 2 years. He doesn't give a damn and won't take a penny less then what he's due next year. If I were Donnie Walsh, I would give Curry his entire salary for next year and tell him to gtfo.

I have thought along those lines but recall this:

At the start of the season he asked the Knicks to forward him 8M of his contract. This is apparently a common practice in the NBA and teams usually give into such demands. The Knicks however said no.....yet gave him 2M advance.

So what I see is a player who is desperate for money. Given that and given his fragile mental state I think if the Knicks approached him and said they'd give him 8M straight up to go away - reminded him he could make nearly 2M off a vet min contract (of which some stupid team would absolutely give him to see what he has left) that maybe he just takes it and runs.

Very possible. 9M (of the 11M) would probably seal the deal.

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3/31/2010  12:20 AM
Cosmic wrote:
Marv wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

where's the drunk drug addicted info coming from?

Dude's been spotted in bars nightly and he always has this tired lazy mess of a look about him. Add in his recent horrible, purposefully horrible, play, and his comments "Oh well season's over in 10 games anyway." <----team actually still in the playoff hunt! --- and it doesn't take much to realize this guy is MESSED UP.


I don't think Hedo looks any different. I think he has eyes that make him look like he is stoned. As far as drunk drug addicted loser I think you need to be careful when you talk about a young famous guy with alot of money. Is he not supposed to go out and enjoy his fame?
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3/31/2010  1:41 AM
Let the contract expire. Curry's expiring is worth more to the Knicks in 2011 cap space than anything else they may get in a trade.
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3/31/2010  7:59 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Marv wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
djsunyc wrote:his contract may be used in a bosh + hedo s&t...

How would this work?

In Toronto Dreamland that's where. Then we're stuck with a drunk drug addicted loser for four more years in Hedo who got his contract and hasn't given a crap about his job since.

But how would it work? It can't if we get two max players this summer. If we got 1 max player we could use curry to S&T for Bosh/Hedo and absorb the extra 17M in salary that comes with that deal in our second max slot.

Why would we do that? We would if we got LBJ, Bosh, Hedo as the third sidekick and pray he starts giving a crap again.

I still say we try to get 1max (or near max) and retain Lee this season and go after that third big name the following summer.

where's the drunk drug addicted info coming from?

Dude's been spotted in bars nightly and he always has this tired lazy mess of a look about him. Add in his recent horrible, purposefully horrible, play, and his comments "Oh well season's over in 10 games anyway." <----team actually still in the playoff hunt! --- and it doesn't take much to realize this guy is MESSED UP.


I don't think Hedo looks any different. I think he has eyes that make him look like he is stoned. As far as drunk drug addicted loser I think you need to be careful when you talk about a young famous guy with alot of money. Is he not supposed to go out and enjoy his fame?

Well first off what I say has no impact on the world. It's a message board I'm not standing on the White House lawn screaming that TurkeyGlue smokes crack. You know? So...no, I don't have to be careful about what I say. I don't come here to build a reputation I come here to BS about sports. Nothing more.

As to TurkeyGlue if you read the rgm Raptors forum a number of fans are posting that they see him out there drinking in excess nightly. That's not a good thing. Is he allowed to enjoy himself? SURE! But like with anyone else when you're not functioning at work you need to tone down your night life. Clearly this guy got paid and has done nothing but get sauced on a daily basis. It's not a good look no matter how you slice it.

Raptor fans want the guy GONE in the worst way. So badly that they're talking about dumping their franchise player (Bosh) to make it happen! They're talking about taking on Eddy Curry to make it happen!

If these aren't red flags I don't know WHAT is a red flag.

Meanwhile, in the past I thought the Magic screwed up not retaining him. I thought they had just added Vince and they can keep Hedo (who played well for them) and be STACKED as any NBA FINALS hopeful SHOULD BE. They didn't keep him and maybe now we know why. Maybe the Magic knew this side of Hedo before anyone else realized it.

Bottom line is the guy is worse than Duhon in terms of sobriety. When you're a PRO ATHLETE making MILLIONS to do your job you need to be SOBER. This guy is clearly wrecked all the time now. It's just not a good thing. I am also hardly the only one to see what is going on with him. It's not like I'm making this up for the hell of it.

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3/31/2010  8:01 AM
WindsorPl wrote:Let the contract expire. Curry's expiring is worth more to the Knicks in 2011 cap space than anything else they may get in a trade.

No reason to just let the contract expire if you can buy him out for a couple of M less. If we're not going to use him in a trade then it is time to just dump him outright and give ourselves another 2-3 VERY USEFUL million for this summer. We drop 2-3M and we're in perfect shape to get 2 max. Or 1 max and 2 stars (one being Lee I suppose).

Just get it done. But somehow I could see us trading Curry for say Elton Brand (and absorbing the extra salary). I wouldn't be opposed to such a deal but would be wary of it - for as usual when a team is dumping "a star player" for expirings? Something isn't right.

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3/31/2010  8:16 AM
The key to him getting bought out is if he gets in shape and can play elsewhere. Even for the 2 mil we discount him.

Typical Eddie summer: Some type of misfortunate thing will happen, then Walsh will visit him at Grovers fatfarm, say he is impressed, Grover says how hard he works, then he cracks a porcelan toliet and cuts his femeral artery and bleeds to death at a famous chicago eatery.

ANd this before he gets bought out.

He is still on the books for next year?

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3/31/2010  11:25 AM
Nalod wrote:Typical Eddie summer: Some type of misfortunate thing will happen, then Walsh will visit him at Grovers fatfarm, say he is impressed, Grover says how hard he works, then he cracks a porcelan toliet and cuts his femeral artery and bleeds to death at a famous chicago eatery.

LOL!

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3/31/2010  12:08 PM
Cosmic wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Let the contract expire. Curry's expiring is worth more to the Knicks in 2011 cap space than anything else they may get in a trade.

No reason to just let the contract expire if you can buy him out for a couple of M less. If we're not going to use him in a trade then it is time to just dump him outright and give ourselves another 2-3 VERY USEFUL million for this summer. We drop 2-3M and we're in perfect shape to get 2 max. Or 1 max and 2 stars (one being Lee I suppose).

Just get it done. But somehow I could see us trading Curry for say Elton Brand (and absorbing the extra salary). I wouldn't be opposed to such a deal but would be wary of it - for as usual when a team is dumping "a star player" for expirings? Something isn't right.

I'm not sure 2 or 3 million is going to help us right now. What if we get a max and great sidekick and just play Eddy as his health allows. (Ok, loaded question but hear me out.) You can't stop Eddy on offense. As we have seen, only Eddy can stop Eddy (with offensive fouls). That said, if we get a guy like Lebron you can be sure Eddy is not going to see many doubles. Since Eddy has a problem passing out, that is perfect, just give it to him when you want a score inside. We can then really get something of value for him, though it won't be at the seasons start (like if we trade him this offseason).

This whole thing hinges on Eddy's health, so it's a big IF.

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3/31/2010  12:13 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Let the contract expire. Curry's expiring is worth more to the Knicks in 2011 cap space than anything else they may get in a trade.

No reason to just let the contract expire if you can buy him out for a couple of M less. If we're not going to use him in a trade then it is time to just dump him outright and give ourselves another 2-3 VERY USEFUL million for this summer. We drop 2-3M and we're in perfect shape to get 2 max. Or 1 max and 2 stars (one being Lee I suppose).

Just get it done. But somehow I could see us trading Curry for say Elton Brand (and absorbing the extra salary). I wouldn't be opposed to such a deal but would be wary of it - for as usual when a team is dumping "a star player" for expirings? Something isn't right.

I'm not sure 2 or 3 million is going to help us right now. What if we get a max and great sidekick and just play Eddy as his health allows. (Ok, loaded question but hear me out.) You can't stop Eddy on offense. As we have seen, only Eddy can stop Eddy (with offensive fouls). That said, if we get a guy like Lebron you can be sure Eddy is not going to see many doubles. Since Eddy has a problem passing out, that is perfect, just give it to him when you want a score inside. We can then really get something of value for him, though it won't be at the seasons start (like if we trade him this offseason).

This whole thing hinges on Eddy's health, so it's a big IF.

I've been looking at the #'s a long time... 2 or 3 million makes a world of difference depending on what the cap number come out to be and who is willing to sign with the Knicks.

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3/31/2010  12:28 PM
Martin, If we take the options on Walker and Giddens we will be at 19.7 million. We still need a backup pg and Sergio is probably too expensive for what he gives. We also need a center. (Dare I say Charmin). If the cap is at 53 million, we still have roughly 33 million in space. Hmmm, I see you point. We still need 3-5 million for a supporting cast. Unless we sign Lee at 10-12 million and get just one Max...
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3/31/2010  6:30 PM
Cosmic wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Let the contract expire. Curry's expiring is worth more to the Knicks in 2011 cap space than anything else they may get in a trade.

No reason to just let the contract expire if you can buy him out for a couple of M less. If we're not going to use him in a trade then it is time to just dump him outright and give ourselves another 2-3 VERY USEFUL million for this summer. We drop 2-3M and we're in perfect shape to get 2 max. Or 1 max and 2 stars (one being Lee I suppose).

Just get it done. But somehow I could see us trading Curry for say Elton Brand (and absorbing the extra salary). I wouldn't be opposed to such a deal but would be wary of it - for as usual when a team is dumping "a star player" for expirings? Something isn't right.

Usually the players hate to leave money on the table. If he can make up the 2-3 million somewhere else and he accepts, great. I doubt it though.
What I don't want is to turn the expiring into another toxic contract.

Curry as an asset?

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