Paladin55 wrote:

kam77 wrote:It has been mentioned by Hahn that Hill's practice habits were questionable here and they've noticed the same in Houston.

Did Hahn report the Houston info too? Hard to believe that Hill would not step it up after being traded.

Pretty unbelievable if true.

Hahn:
Meanwhile, here’s Rockets’ coach Rick Adelman take on Hill:

“He’s been very active when we’ve played him. He’s given us a little bit of athleticism there that we didn’t have. If he continues to play hard the whole time he’s on the court, he helps us.

kam77 wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

kam77 wrote:It has been mentioned by Hahn that Hill's practice habits were questionable here and they've noticed the same in Houston.

Did Hahn report the Houston info too? Hard to believe that Hill would not step it up after being traded.

Pretty unbelievable if true.

Hahn:
Meanwhile, here’s Rockets’ coach Rick Adelman take on Hill:

“He’s been very active when we’ve played him. He’s given us a little bit of athleticism there that we didn’t have. If he continues to play hard the whole time he’s on the court, he helps us.

is this quote trying to imply a bad thing?

firefly wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

firefly wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Now add Jimmer fredette and we will have one heckuva two headed PG.

$10 says Jimmer Fredette doesn't score more then 5 ppg or get more then 2 apg over the first half of the season. You gotta stop jocking these guys like they're gonna come in and make Chris Paul look redundant. Heck, make Chris Duhon redundant! Fredette will be a low ranked rookie and you piling pressure on him isn't gonna help his transition into an NBA player. The way you talk in thread after thread after thread it's like this guys gonna be dishing and swishing all over the place. It's not going to happen. Get over it. He might be good. Be might be great. In the future. Not next year. I hang my ass on that.

I think he's going to be very good right away. There are things he does that so many prospects cannot do that will translate very well in the NBA--especially with a team that can space the floor like the Knicks. I read that his 3 point shot from the top of the key[before his second illness that dropped his 3pt FG % from 49 to 45] dropped at nearly 60%. He will not have the pressure to score and knows how to find the open man and if all else fails--like Steve Nash knows how to use angles body control and a constant dribble to score in the paint. I think this kid is made for this type of team. Im not looking for someone to come in and play 40 minutes--Im looking for a 12/14 minute back up. Obviously were going to carry 3 PGs next year.

I hope you're right man. It just frustrates me that guys who have done nothing to prove they'll be any good as NBA player get blown totally out of proportion by the magic P word. Darko, Kandi, Kwame, Holiday there are so many more i could name. Today's big hit or big sleeper or next LeBron. Leave the rookies alone and appreciate it takes truly exception talent to fit right intothe NBA immediately. Maybe 2-4 guys have that each year, yet the superlatives people throw out about ordinary mid to low first talent borders on ridiculous. I've got nothing against Fredette personally, it's the whole potential thing, the "he can jump high and he's taller then my bedroom ceiling and therefore will better then Michael" that I find to be complete bullcrud.

Glad I got that off my chest.

I could imagine you casino hopping, cruising in an American classic in London, chain smoking, and venting about this very topinc. I have no idea why this image popped into my head.

TMS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

kam77 wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

kam77 wrote:It has been mentioned by Hahn that Hill's practice habits were questionable here and they've noticed the same in Houston.

Did Hahn report the Houston info too? Hard to believe that Hill would not step it up after being traded.

Pretty unbelievable if true.

Hahn:
Meanwhile, here’s Rockets’ coach Rick Adelman take on Hill:

“He’s been very active when we’ve played him. He’s given us a little bit of athleticism there that we didn’t have. If he continues to play hard the whole time he’s on the court, he helps us.

is this quote trying to imply a bad thing?

where exactly does Adelman say that Jordan Hill's practice habits are questionable in that statement?

I underlined the part where Adelman implies that Jordan doesn't always play hard all the time. Hahn made a big deal of it becuase apparently Adelman said it more than once.

TMS wrote:who wasn't? he put up some nice stats in SL... 14 & 8 are pretty good numbers for an out of shape, lazy & unmotivated rookie.

Eddie Curry put up almost what, 20 and 7. He was out of shape and lazy that year too. Usually, those characteristics are extreme warning flags.

sidsanders wrote:

kam77 wrote:

TMS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

kam77 wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

kam77 wrote:It has been mentioned by Hahn that Hill's practice habits were questionable here and they've noticed the same in Houston.

Did Hahn report the Houston info too? Hard to believe that Hill would not step it up after being traded.

Pretty unbelievable if true.

Hahn:
Meanwhile, here’s Rockets’ coach Rick Adelman take on Hill:

“He’s been very active when we’ve played him. He’s given us a little bit of athleticism there that we didn’t have. If he continues to play hard the whole time he’s on the court, he helps us.

is this quote trying to imply a bad thing?

where exactly does Adelman say that Jordan Hill's practice habits are questionable in that statement?

I underlined the part where Adelman implies that Jordan doesn't always play hard all the time. Hahn made a big deal of it becuase apparently Adelman said it more than once.

how does that line imply that? it implies to me: when he plays like he has, he help us.

The Coach said "if he plays hard the whole time" which is Coach-speak for.. he doesn't always play hard.

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:who wasn't? he put up some nice stats in SL... 14 & 8 are pretty good numbers for an out of shape, lazy & unmotivated rookie.

Eddie Curry put up almost what, 20 and 7. He was out of shape and lazy that year too. Usually, those characteristics are extreme warning flags.

dude, we're talking about a rookie player here... Brandon Jennings put up 14 pts in SL too, does that indicate that he was lazy in practices or showed up to SL in bad shape?

Im certainlty not a fan of learning on the fly, and i had no problems with Mike not playing TD, because watching and studying the game helps with the mental aspect of the game.

knicks1248 wrote:Im a die hard greenbay packer fan and I got to tell ya, When Aaron took over from bret, he had to wait roughly 5 seasons before he got his shot, and greenbay hasn't missed a beat since bret. He said he learned so much sitting on the side lines that he was almost happy that he did.

Im certainlty not a fan of learning on the fly, and i had no problems with Mike not playing TD, because watching and studying the game helps with the mental aspect of the game.

no way it was five seasons? Was it?