Juice wrote:BUT BUT BUT BUT Stern is in on the fix and our GM has inside info on 2010. Why is he wasting his breath discussing 2011 and a 5yr plan? LOL @ this dude if he made a trade to start building in 2011 with no future assets to show for. Another GM used to try to attempt this same USED CAR SALESMAN approach but I won't say his name.

He Who's Name We Shall Not Utter at least got back tangible players when he traded assets away... DW traded away multiple young assets for cap space... hard for people to have confidence in this until we see that the risk paid off this summer... DW better be ready for a huge backlash if it doesn't... he'll get accolades if it does.

s3231 wrote:Keep in mind, we don't necessariy have to sign Chandler before we use the cap space. If someone signed him to an offer sheet, we would still have 7 days to match and could very well use the cap before matching any offer. So we wouldn't really have to project what Wilson would get on the open market, the qualifying offer or his cap hold is the only thing we need to factor in.

If we don't use the team options on Giddens and Walker, that gives Walsh an extra chunk of cash to use and if he feels like he can get a Melo or a Paul, I don't think he will hesitate to ensure he has enough cap to offer a max (as we've seen with the T-Mac deal).

The cap holds on the roster spots defitintely take away a bit from the cap space but I think overall, it still seems feasible that Donnie can clear enough cap for another max in 2011. Let's def. not get ahead of ourselves though. Hopefully LeBron and Bosh just make it easy on us and come to NY together.

We'll have about $11mil in cap space if we make minimal to no moves with future salary, yet we'd have to put a team together around the summer acquisitions right?

Chandler's Cap Hold will be $6.3mil. His QO will be about $3.1mil. Assuming the Cap stays steady($55-56mil in 2011) So in essence it's....

- Chandler receives no extension by this summer/October 31rst

- Chandler receives an extension by this summer/October 31rst eating up at least half of our projected $11mil cap space

- Chandler accepting his QO in June , leaving us about $8mil in cap space

- Chandler S&T for pick(s) and/or small salary player in the amount of his QO, leaving us about $8mil in cap space

- Chandler traded this summer or by February deadline for player of equal salary and pick, who isn't an expiring

- Chandler traded this summer or by February deadline for a player of equal salary and pick, who is an expiring

- Chandler traded for talented player with Curry who isn't an expiring eating up our $11mil cap space

- Chandler traded for talented player with Curry who is an expiring who's cap hold eats up our cap space

- Chandler receives a contract offer July 1rst for the majority of our projected cap space and we match

- Chandler receives a contract offer July 1rst for the majority of our projected cap space and we don't match

^^^^^^^^^

Now rank these in the order which you think is the most probable to happen

Juice wrote:

s3231 wrote:Keep in mind, we don't necessariy have to sign Chandler before we use the cap space. If someone signed him to an offer sheet, we would still have 7 days to match and could very well use the cap before matching any offer. So we wouldn't really have to project what Wilson would get on the open market, the qualifying offer or his cap hold is the only thing we need to factor in.

If we don't use the team options on Giddens and Walker, that gives Walsh an extra chunk of cash to use and if he feels like he can get a Melo or a Paul, I don't think he will hesitate to ensure he has enough cap to offer a max (as we've seen with the T-Mac deal).

The cap holds on the roster spots defitintely take away a bit from the cap space but I think overall, it still seems feasible that Donnie can clear enough cap for another max in 2011. Let's def. not get ahead of ourselves though. Hopefully LeBron and Bosh just make it easy on us and come to NY together.

We'll have about $11mil in cap space if we make minimal to no moves with future salary, yet we'd have to put a team together around the summer acquisitions right?

Chandler's Cap Hold will be $6.3mil. His QO will be about $3.1mil. Assuming the Cap stays steady($55-56mil in 2011) So in essence it's....

- Chandler receives no extension by this summer/October 31rst

- Chandler receives an extension by this summer/October 31rst eating up at least half of our projected $11mil cap space

- Chandler accepting his QO in June , leaving us about $8mil in cap space

- Chandler S&T for pick(s) and/or small salary player in the amount of his QO, leaving us about $8mil in cap space

- Chandler traded this summer or by February deadline for player of equal salary and pick, who isn't an expiring

- Chandler traded this summer or by February deadline for a player of equal salary and pick, who is an expiring

- Chandler traded for talented player with Curry who isn't an expiring eating up our $11mil cap space

- Chandler traded for talented player with Curry who is an expiring who's cap hold eats up our cap space

- Chandler receives a contract offer July 1rst for the majority of our projected cap space and we match

- Chandler receives a contract offer July 1rst for the majority of our projected cap space and we don't match

^^^^^^^^^

Now rank these in the order which you think is the most probable to happen

Well, the amount of cap obviously depends on a bunch of factors. If Donnie doesn't exercise those team options on Giddens and Walker, then that gives him almost $3 million extra in cap space. As far as this summer's acquisitions, I mean, for all we know, most of them will probably be on 1 year minimum contracts. Donnie could very well sign someone to a multi-year deal if he thinks the guy is good enough.

There's really no point in trying to project how much cap we will have at this point as we don't know which players will even be on the roster in 2010. The point of my post was that if certain things go a certain way, Donnie can open up enough cap to max a 3rd guy even if he brings back Lee and signs a LeBron or Bosh.

As far as Chandler is concerned, I think we either trade him for a PG or we hold on to him until Restricted Free Agency. Why extend him now when you can the let the market dictate his price? With the new CBA looming, we will have much more leverage in negotiations so I don't see the point in extending Wilson early. I think we let him play out next season and then you use that restricted status to try to bring him on a reasonable deal.

Keep in mind, he will be able to talk to other teams on July 1st but that doesn't mean he can sign on that day. When he does sign an offer sheet, it gives us 7 days to match. So hypothetically, we could use the cap space early on and then use our bird rights to re-sign Chandler. There is no need to use cap space on Chandler, aside from his cap hold. We can simply use the cap space elsewhere and then extend Chandler right after.

Nalod wrote:I have long stateed that We have a handshake deal with Dlee and HAD to create the space to sign him and one max player.

so basically your theory is that we traded away Jordan Hill & the rights to 2 future picks so we could re-sign David Lee... scary.