listen to the comments he made to Mike & the MD when he took this job... he speaks about understanding that it might take taking 2 steps back before we can hope to take a step forward in NY & says he's not going to be willing to go after a temporary fix to try & win now... he says his complete trust is in Donnie Walsh & his plan & trusts in his judgement... so when the guy whose judgement you trust in completely brings in guys like Darko, Hughes, Jordan Hill & Toney Douglas & brings back a guy like Nate, would it not make sense to play those guys rather than devoting a wasted season on trying to milk whatever u can get out of guys like Chris Duhon & Jared Jeffries?

ok fine, he gave Donnie's guy Bender a shot to play, but seriously how do u possibly put him in front of those other guys on that list? they were all brought in by Donnie as well... every single one of them deserved playing time over Bender... every single one of those guys would have been upgrades over Chris Duhon or Jared Jeffries this season (sorry but a few drawn charges every game is not good enough of a reason to play him over a #8 lottery pick selection)... neither Duhon, Jeffries or Bender had any kind of realistic future on this team beyond this season... & even if u can apply that same point to Hughes & Darko as well, it still doesn't explain why our rooks got no burn til the very end of the year when we were pretty much mathematically out of the playoff hunt, even tho it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out we were out of the race a long time earlier... also doesn't excuse how he completely mismanaged Nate this year either when he should have been trying to raise his trade value to use as a possible asset at the trade deadline... did anyone realistically think that by playing Jeffries & Duhon for 35+ a night each that it served our best interests this season? i mean seriously?

Not smart when you've been a grave disappointment for a rabid fan base and a insanely large media center. Duke is too arrogant with his for no reason.

little known facts about MDA: he likes losing, he hates developing talent, he prefers to play weak players even though he knows he has better players on his bench, he encourages his players to allow their opponent to score, he is perfect and the results of his actions are all precisely what he intended. he never makes mistakes.

the knicks have to change the ways of the previous regimes. it's time to fire the coach. we must avoid any potential continuity going into this offseason. we're already losing more than half the roster, we might as well drop the coaching staff too.

eViL wrote:lost in all of this is the fact that, lucky for mike, the knicks don't have the chance to pick any rookies (in the first round of the 2010 draft at least). you see, those picks we traded weren't assets at all. in fact, i think MDA urged donnie to trade more picks just so he wouldn't have to explain why he's not playing them.

little known facts about MDA: he likes losing, he hates developing talent, he prefers to play weak players even though he knows he has better players on his bench, he encourages his players to allow their opponent to score, he is perfect and the results of his actions are all precisely what he intended. he never makes mistakes.

the knicks have to change the ways of the previous regimes. it's time to fire the coach. we must avoid any potential continuity going into this offseason. we're already losing more than half the roster, we might as well drop the coaching staff too.

u still have yet to offer any sound reasoning to explain his curious rotation patterns this season... painting a sarcastic picture doesn't hide the lack of facts to support the job he's done as our head coach... all i've been giving you are words straight from his own mouth & from the mouth of the man whose plan he has supposedly bought into to support my argument... all you have done is offer sarcasm to support yours.

And is this what this board is going to be like every day until the start of next season? Bashing Mike for pretty much nothing at all and whining about a mediocre rookie PF like it's the end of the world? Calling to fire a coach who was brought here to help rebuild before we even get to build the new team he was REALLY brought in to coach starting NEXT season? Some people act like we were supposed to win 50 the past two years and Walsh and Mike somehow screwed it all up.

I wonder how many fans still don't understand what the Knicks have been doing the past two years. But hey, let's just bitch and moan about trading a 5pt/5rb player for eternity and call for the coaches head because he couldn't win 50 during two KNOWN REBUILDING SEASONS.

I guess it sounds better and is more fun to do rather than understand what has happened the past two years. Reality isn't any fun I suppose.

Seems people are going way over the top for no good reason at all.

And this Hill thing shows just how juvenile the kid is. Nothing funny about his twitter at all. It's not witty either. It'd be nice for him to learn the English language too. In fact this behavior of his is possibly one of the reasons he hadn't gotten much playing time - besides behind behind Lee, Jeffries, Gallo, Harrington of course. But that's too logical for some to process. We should have been playing Hill 40 minutes a game apparently. He really earned it by being out of shape, laughing it up on the bench, ignoring anything going on while he sat on the bench, and flat out playing like an NBDL walkon! Yep, every coach would reward that with a starting position!

Mike seems to know damn well what he was doing. Gallo, Chandler, Lee, Douglas - all playing terrific basketball. The malcontents doghoused along the way.

Walsh sure does seem to know what he is doing as well.

But you guys won't have it because you seem to think we should have been a playoff team the past two years, Walsh should have pulled off some miracle Isiah trades, and Mike didn't throw a raw ass rookie out on the court for 40 minutes per game.

Seriously, some of ya need to move on. The Knicks have a plan, have followed it to the letter, and this is what we are doing. Don't like it? That's fine. But it's what we're doing.

Going ape**** about it on the internet isn't going to change a thing.

Maybe wait and see what we do this summer. Save your strength to bitch about those moves if they don't pan out. What's done is done and we've done very well on the financial and business side of basketball operations and have developed some very good young players.....and are in a position to build a very good team with a pretty good coach to guide it.

And we're here CRYING over Jordan Hill. Demanding Mike and Walsh get fired for not playing Jordan Hill big minutes.

Fascinating.

Cosmic wrote:

TMS wrote:

eViL wrote:lost in all of this is the fact that, lucky for mike, the knicks don't have the chance to pick any rookies (in the first round of the 2010 draft at least). you see, those picks we traded weren't assets at all. in fact, i think MDA urged donnie to trade more picks just so he wouldn't have to explain why he's not playing them.

little known facts about MDA: he likes losing, he hates developing talent, he prefers to play weak players even though he knows he has better players on his bench, he encourages his players to allow their opponent to score, he is perfect and the results of his actions are all precisely what he intended. he never makes mistakes.

the knicks have to change the ways of the previous regimes. it's time to fire the coach. we must avoid any potential continuity going into this offseason. we're already losing more than half the roster, we might as well drop the coaching staff too.

u still have yet to offer any sound reasoning to explain his curious rotation patterns this season... painting a sarcastic picture doesn't hide the lack of facts to support the job he's done as our head coach.

What are these circus rotations you speak of?

Darko should have been given a better chance. Hill should have played more but not a lot more. Douglas probably should have played more minutes earlier on ---- thus limiting Jeffries/Harrington/Duhon.

Other than that what are these crazy terrible rotations that apparently cost us the playoffs I keep hearing about?

And besides you nor I have any idea what goes on in practice and what factors into a player getting minutes or not. I'm pretty certain Mike and the coaches have a much better feel for their players than we do. You don't know who is screwing what up and who has a bad attitude or a poor work ethic.

Cosmic you complained about his rotations in game threads just like most of us. Come on, now. This ain't new here. Who's talking about playoffs. I think everyone is talking about player development. What sense did it make to play Harrington so many minutes and not Hill. Are you now saying that Al has been playing great team ball and his minutes were well earned? I was against the hire but everyone knows he is coming back next season. No need to have a closed eye to the situation though.

On a side note, Hill defended Al so well that he got frustrated and started hacking at him.

TMS wrote:did anyone realistically think that by playing Jeffries & Duhon for 35+ a night each that it served our best interests this season? i mean seriously?

any MDA defenders wanna step up to the plate & answer this one?

"Seriously. I mean, exactly when would I not play rookies?

err... this season coach?

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Pharzeone wrote:ROFL. That quote has to be one of the most bizarre ones I seen in awhile from a head coach. I can't complain, I like it for my sign.

His stans, other than Nalod have been dead ass quiet. His handling of Hill is indefensible and supports the narrative that those who disapprove of him, and his job performance, have been claiming for quite sometime.

not true. The rest of the MDA supports are trolling through the Alba thread, too bored of the tired arguments.

How is this a "tired" argument. He just said this about Hill, what, a day or so ago?

hey, I thought Hill should have played more. Speak to MDA's other comments that came out of the same clips from yesterday: Hill was behind Lee, Harrington, Jefferies, Gallo, etc at the 4/5 position for minutes. He also needed to learn system (others had a head start on this from previous year) and came into training camp out of shape.

Pharzeone wrote:Add Kelly Dwyer to the list of rogue MDA bashers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Mike-D-Antoni-s-excuse-making-days-are-over?urn=nba,229475

clearly he's got a personal vendetta against the man as we all do.

especially enjoyed the comments:

Seriously, D'Antoni needs to be a specialist bench coach. Just work on the offense, and let a real coach teach defense. I mean he might have the biggest doghouse in the league, it's a dogmansion. He needs help on the other side of the ball.

Jordan Hill isn't a bad rookie. You need to look at his stats since the Rockets have been giving him decent minutes. Now that he is getting comfy in the system he has been posting double digit points and more than 6 boards a game. Morey knows what he does, and the knicks as usual, dont. And this is coming from a guy who cheers both teams. D'Antoni is on his way to getting Sprewell choked if he doesnt keep his ego in check

"You rang?"

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TMS wrote:did anyone realistically think that by playing Jeffries & Duhon for 35+ a night each that it served our best interests this season? i mean seriously?

any MDA defenders wanna step up to the plate & answer this one?

Jeffries is obviously missed defensively. Walsh may have been a factor pushing for him to play so he could be traded. Walsh gave D'antoni no other option than Duhon. Don't say TD because you dont know that TD was even ready to start the season as starting PG.